GTM MHI Kit Group Buy Participants...

Originally Posted by Nixlimited

There is no question he had some sort of brain issue. When I was there reclaiming my car, his head was shaved and he had an enormous, fresh scar covering half his head.

Originally Posted by BGTV8

Aussie guys are deep in the brown-stuff .... getting anywhere will require a US attorney and I cannot think of any reason why a US attorney would represent someone from Australia - just too hard.

Originally Posted by mikey1600

I've already spoken to commonwealth bank/mastercard about it here in Australia, even though it's over the usual 45 day period, they will still take on the case if you want them too and credit your money/chase them for the money, works the same way others were saying where the bank takes on the debt and they start recovery options for themselves, no fee's involved either.

This of course has to be done before a company files bankruptcy, even then if a company goes bankrupt they still try to reclaim any money for you, they were really helpful when I called for some options just incase

Originally Posted by G37Sam

Why don't some of the local guys drive over to GTM and see what's up? Take pics and what not. I sure would do that if they were within a 2hr driving distance.

Originally Posted by GrooveStyle

That would be greatly appreciated if anyone is in the area.

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

I would go but I doubt they would let me in the shop.. LOL

Originally Posted by BGTV8

Folks, the reason you are being told to claim back thru your bank (for those who paid via credit card) is that it will be the bank who makes the refund and not GTM.

There are 3 parties involved: the bank, the credit card scheme (VISA or Mastercard) and the merchant (GTM).

In the event that the bank debits your card account to settle a purchase with a merchant, this creates a contract to timely supply of goods. If you do not receive the goods in a timely manner, then you can go back to your bank and dispute the purchase on the basis that the bank will credit those disputed amount back to your credit card account and the bank chases the merchant.

What you are NOT being told is that a disputed transaction for a failure to deliver charge-back MUST occur within 90 days of the transaction appearing on your credit card statement, failing which the card-holder has no recourse. When talking to your bank, I reckon you should also state that the bank has been a party to a fraud in order to get some leverage over the fact that more than 90-days will have passed for most seeking a refund.

I have watched this and other threads on the subject for many months, and the only step now is to approach the police alleging fraud (all of the conditions for a criminal fraud case are present in my view). I am Australian and not a US citizen, so I am not familiar with State -vs- Federal jurisdictions, but it is clear that a corporation has offered goods for sale and has not ever been in a position to deliver those goods, which in my framework is misleading and deceptive conduct and also fraudulent behaviour.

Time to stop talking/posting, and brief a lawyer if you do not get immediate satisfaction from you bank. Either that, or accept that your money has gone and/or that you will receive the goods at some future (unspecified) time.

Originally Posted by Ninjahero

So.... This is probably going to piss off a lot of people. But I called GTM today and talked to Sam. He told me if I placed an order for a Twin Turbo Stage 2 I could come pick it up today if i paid in cash.