Took you a day and you come up with that? Dude get over it, you got your money, you don't even own a z anymore. He probably wasn't out to get you, things just didn't work out the way he over optimistically had hoped. To the 3 or 4 people who are still in it if you want a refund do what you have to do.

My whole point is you guys are screaming fraud, but this isn't fraud it's just bad business.

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Lol!!!!


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Should of put "owns" would of been funnier....


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What do you call Sam telling people to dispute the charges with their banks?

while your at it at least downsize the fuckin things they take a whole page

I call that hes probably out of liquid cash and instead of saying "i'll send it when I have the extra cash and time" it was "If you need it right now file the claim with your bank, I'll deal with having to work out payments to them, and you will get it back in a matter of days" I would be willing to bet that if some ones bank refuses to refund the money they could call and he would still send it when he can.

Edit: of course that reading into it so who knows what is really happening, maybe his dog ate the sheet with the original payment information and his checkbook.

Also like I said maybe funding isn't the issue and something is really just taking for ever this all just speculation anyway.

Remember he still has employees to pay, bills to pay, supplies to buy, running a company takes a lot of money and if he had to spend the leftovers on the r&d and now start covering 20+ refunds it may take a bit to do it all

Its just like the stock market folding up people start pulling their money out, there isn't enough there at the time all of a sudden everything starts to get affected and everyone screams foul play because it's real easy to point a finger at someone.

My bad.


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Im done with this train wreck of a thread and the arguing here. :shakes head:

Im going to ask the few people whom are still in this group buy to let AK know.

Im also going to give one final WARNING to whom are here to just throw accusations or :twocents: because they have nothing better to do

And YOU know who YOU are?? So don't be surprised IF it results in a possible temp BAN from this forum IF this continues in someone else's thread.

Im dam sure everyone Gets it by Now and thats fine. :ugh2:



Again I've let AK know of this vendor, And the jury is still out since he's been pretty busy with personal matters, And He will get to this issue.

I would also like everyone's cooperation as I think We've been pretty fair with everyone whom had an opinion, But it's just getting way out of hand.


And for the love of "GOD" GTM "PLEASE GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!"