That is a lot of use of the word "sure".

It "SURE" is..:icon18:

Perhaps they are building Flux Capacitors..

I am willing to bet they're still doing plenty of business locally. You would be surprised how many people aren't on the forums and drop thousands of dollars not knowing what goes on behind the scenes.

I am in line to receive a product and I still don't know what to say. I literally talk to Sam every day to check up on my kit, and every day he says it's "at the powder coaters but they'll pick it up later and it'll ship tomorrow morning".

Just record that line and replay it every morning when you wake up and it'll save you a phone call.

I went through the same thing with him before deciding I was totally wasting my time. I suspect he really doesn't remember what he has told someone from day to day. and that is the best possible explanation. My suggestion is to not continue doing the same thing and expecting different results.

It was like that for me for months...

The definition of insanity is doing something over and over while expecting different results. Is Sam insane by telling us the same thing over and over again or are we to blame for believing it.

Good for you I suppose, however I was there and that is the exact experience I had as a person coming from out-of-state. It was pretty ridiculous to call the shop on my cell phone from outside the parking lot only to be TURNED AWAY.

Seeing a shop that does not have their name on the shop (keep in mind it USED TO) and locked up procedures (Pablo told me that one the phone before being turning me away) it tends to raise a little suspicion to most level headed folks. Definitely not something that screams, I want to remain in business as I mentioned previously they used to be GTM branded building with open door policy when I was back there in '08 getting my car TT'd.

At my most recent visit I was hoping to go and buy the GTM waste gate conversion kit right there but that's how that solid hour drive from Los Angeles turned out. Granted I was in LA for work, but well that gave me the info I needed to know to go through a reseller as worst case my builder can just custom fab a set - just trying to save a few bucks to go with a kit already made for the TT setup and time is on my side. This isn't my first rodeo with them and I've done a lot of business with them which definitely went down hill over time.

But main point is to help these guys out on this thread with the knowledge that the shop does still seem to be doing work which if I was on this group buy would at least be something positive to hear in the sea of $hit.

Maybe Sam has Alzheimers?:roflpuke2:

Just wait for the public auction...Perhaps you can buy parts of the turbo kit you already paid for back..:ugh2: While Sam continues to drive an S class and live in a mansion...

Anyone wanna help me buy a used GTM kit and send it to Mexico to be copied, then mass produce it?

So this is getting old and sad... Are there any other threads going on that we can chime in on. All i see lately are vendors bumps.

Looks like Sam's Ponzi scheme caught up to him. GTM is a shady company, and have always been. Sam is such a squid, hell get whats coming to him.