Blown Motor, Engine Rebuild/Replacement.

Chuck33079

You'd have to get the turbos as well. They're v-band housings if I remember correctly. You'd be better off having new manifolds fabbed up.

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G37sHKS

Maybe the whole kit to call it FI turbo kit

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elperuano

Didn't gtm come out with the new housings that can be upgraded with the stage 2 kit?

Chuck33079

They made a thread about them. I'm sure they'll take your money for them. As far as when you'll get them, who knows.

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G37sHKS

No I don't think you need to change the turbos if youre upgrading to V3 manifolds

I spoke with Sam about about this and all we need is

V3 Manifold
New housing from Garret (T25 Plus)
New Downpipes
New intercooler pipes
New two piece intercooler (optional)

Sounds like a good upgrade but then, if the crack keeps coming I see no reason to upgrade. I strongly demand that Sam@GTM beat the **** out of the test car with the new manifold on track for 14 days in raw then check and see if there is crack or not then improve from there.

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elperuano

Would suck to do all that just to have the manifolds still crack.
So we're just stuck with this problem

G37sHKS

Not yet. only time will tell. Im talking about V3 manifolds.
So basically we're not sure if we are stuck or not LOL

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COSMO

What I can't believe is spending almost 10k and just after a year later having FAILED parts from a FAILING company.. If they had any dignity or respect for what they do you would think they would do the right thing and atleast send us new manifolds. I want to post my findings on the group buy thread but I know the admins would only protect gtm.... Gotta love politics.

COSMO

GTM you suck @SS!!!!!!!!!!! And if the moderators do read this I speak of experience. They should be banned from selling anything from this site so others that are thinking of using them won't..

G37sHKS

What happened?

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COSMO

Time to take a few shots and calm down again.. It kinda hard not to get really pissed after walking into the garage and seeing that...

O&G

Exhaust leaks from cracks, however small they may be, pre-turbo or even near is a big NO NO. Good luck solving the problem!!! Those FI manifolds are sex and V-Bands are king!

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phunk

its pretty typical of cast iron turbo manifolds to crack, even factory ones where the turbos are often supported. However, your crack is coming at extremely low mileage, much earlier than I would say should be expected.

I dont know if I think supporting the turbos is the fix. I suspect it has more to do with the stresses of the part expanding differently in different locations based on the mass in that area, and the heat applied to it. I wonder if longer runner cast manifolds might go longer from having more space for expansion before the next "node" if you will. I am not familiar enough with different metallurgy to know if the same design would be more durable if it were thicker or higher quality casting. Perhaps making it thicker could make it worse?

I know that the greddy manifolds crack too. And factory turbo cars I work on often have cracked manifolds.

I am not defending a manifold cracking in 5000 miles though.

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elperuano

This just feels bad. I'm set on building my block. Ordered parts. This is the 4th manifold I've read going bad. I'm certain mine will be no good. Mine has 12k miles on out at 12lbs. I can't believe yours went bad with only few thousand miles.

elperuano

Wonder where George from gtm is at now. Maybe he can chime in here our options. He was chiming in everywhere a week ago