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Chuck33079 03-19-2014 07:57 AM

I'm very curious how it's going to sound, especially when it's cold. I've heard built motors that sounded as quiet as stock, and I've heard some that clattered like a diesel. I guess it depends on what kind of clearance they ran on the pistons.

esfourteen 03-19-2014 08:18 AM

I definitely underestimated how restricted that manifold exit was compared to the turbo flange, just called my shop to make sure they hadn't bolted the turbos up yet and fortunately I caught them before so they are going to grind that out as well, good catch!

As for break in, we used a pressurized lubricator that connects to the block and forces oil everywhere (no dry cranking) along with a break in oil for start up, after 20-30 minutes of running that at ~2k rpm, we drained it and replaced with conventional oil for the first 500, changed that for conventional again and left it until about 4-5k.

Once I swapped to synthetic at 5k I noticed my valve train noise from VVEL was MUCH louder than it was prior to the build and when I was breaking in the engine. I don't know if it was the break in oil or just the whole process but VVEL is noisy as hell now. I used an additive by RS-R called "ran up" and it was night and day difference, sounded like stock again, so I'm going to try ester oil to see if its quieter.

DEpointfive0 03-19-2014 08:25 AM

^RSR Ran Up oil is BULLLLLLSHIT.
Get the one I recommended. Disadvantage is that it won't thin your oil like the other stuff. But it's the same additives

Chuck33079 03-19-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2743229)
^RSR Ran Up oil is BULLLLLLSHIT.
Get the one I recommended. Disadvantage is that it won't thin your oil like the other stuff. But it's the same additives

Dammit man, now I have to go over to bob is the oil guy and read up on it. That place makes my head hurt. :rofl2:

DEpointfive0 03-19-2014 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2743237)
Dammit man, now I have to go over to bob is the oil guy and read up on it. That place makes my head hurt. :rofl2:

It's a replacement quart of 0W20 and hi tech NASA used lubricants... AKA molybdenum...
So the 0W20 is why you get the 1-5hp increase, and the Mo is why it quiets the engine

Chuck33079 03-19-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2743259)
It's a replacement quart of 0W20 and hi tech NASA used lubricants... AKA molybdenum...
So the 0W20 is why you get the 1-5hp increase, and the Mo is why it quiets the engine

So it's 300 ml of 0-20 and some moly?

esfourteen 03-19-2014 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2743229)
^RSR Ran Up oil is BULLLLLLSHIT.
Get the one I recommended. Disadvantage is that it won't thin your oil like the other stuff. But it's the same additives

not sure what you mean by bullsh1t, its super expensive if thats what you mean, but it worked great. I'll give the Liqui Moly a try for sure though

DEpointfive0 03-19-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2743260)
So it's 300 ml of 0-20 and some moly?

I thought RSR was a quart? At best it's a ceramic additive, but I know NASA used Mo.

LiquiMoly is 300mL and some Mo.

Chuck33079 03-19-2014 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2743264)
I thought RSR was a quart? At best it's a ceramic additive, but I know NASA used Mo.

LiquiMoly is 300mL and some Mo.

I was talking about the liquimoly you linked.

DEpointfive0 03-19-2014 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2743263)
not sure what you mean by bullsh1t, its super expensive if thats what you mean, but it worked great. I'll give the Liqui Moly a try for sure though

It's just snake oil's snake oil. The "HP gains" are due to it being thinner. And the sound difference is the Mo in it. That's why Nissan's Ester oil has a high amount of Mo in it. To lessen the sound of valve chatter

roplusbee 03-19-2014 02:00 PM

Good info

COSMO 03-19-2014 09:28 PM

Well no word from vsr that my motor was shipped today... Having flashbacks!!

elperuano 03-19-2014 10:08 PM

Eeaaaaassyy. It's only 1 day. Not few months. Finishing touches prolly.

COSMO 03-20-2014 07:29 AM

LOL!!!!! :icon18::rofl2:



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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2744395)
Eeaaaaassyy. It's only 1 day. Not few months. Finishing touches prolly.


elperuano 03-20-2014 07:53 PM

So what's up Cosmo? Any word?


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