Blown motor!!!!

zguynate

I agree with this. Find you a nice used motor and swap it over. It will be cheaper and you will be driving your car in no time.

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elliotty

I also agree. It shouldn't be too bad swapping over. Then, you could build your stock motor (if it is salvageable) at whatever speed you desire without the need to rush. Just my

Sorry to hear this happened to you. I have been watching closely for lessons learned and taking note!

phunk

guys dont under estimate the cost and burden of inventory in this industry.

products for these cars are not only extremely expensive, but extremely specific. I mean, each product fits just a few years of an exact model. Makes it very difficult to afford/justify inventory because stuff sits around forever.

As we put together our engine package based on what we are doing with mine... I will stock some of the parts, but I could not afford to stock the entire engine. Because if I did, anyone who called looking for one, is going to want something different anyway... you guys *ALL* want something different!!!!!! lol. or some new trend of rod or piston or something starts, and then boom, stuck with an engine that nobody wants!

now for the truth you guys don't want to hear.... you know who's responsibility it is to stock a built engine? the guys running 500+hp on stock VQ

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DEpointfive0

I've been to GTM, they... Should... Well... If it was run well, and they didn't keep and hold peoples' money for 2 years at a time and piss people off, they'd have the money to stock anything they want

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phunk

I am not saying shops cannot afford it in a literal sense of not having the money. I am saying that it's not worth having the money tied up in unless you have a really steady engine program and you know that an engine is not going to sit any longer than 4-6 weeks or so.

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DEpointfive0

Lol, I'm a cost accountant, I know the holding cost of inventory.
Their turn around and pissing off customers is what's holding them back

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COSMO

I guess they think out of the 100+ people on the group buy that not one will pop. But who cares at that point because they made their money... I was hoping APS would make a TT kit like they did for the 350z... Also not everyone is going to have extra money to put in an over built motor when all most need is just a basic motor with forged internals and a lower compression. I am sorry but there is no excuse but poor management.

phunk

Oh man... I take it you were one of the 3 people that had a positive experience with APS? I dont know about you, but I was around for the entire ride with APS from when they showed up to when they vanished... and theres a lot of similarities in the situation there. I dont know that any manufacturer has yet to display the arrogance that was APS.

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COSMO

I remember you from the 350z forum and yes I was pleased with my aps kit. No drilling or tapping of anything and my old car is still on the road today with that kit. I also have a friend in dallas who has a aps single turbo with almost 200k miles. Gtm has a very good TT kit but they lack business savvy and should not be making promises they cannot keep. The sad thing is, now everything is finally catching up to them in a bad way because bad news travels faster than good news. You people are going to be stuck down the road because look at what is happening now with your kits. If I had it to do again I would not invested so much money in a company that who knows where will be down the road...

COSMO

(That being said, I absolutely feel Sam tried to give me a huge break on the work he did. The engine is holding up well and feels super solid.
I think Sam works very hard to make everyone as happy as possible; but completely over extends his ability to crank out cars & kits. This leads to multiple missed deadlines.)

I couldn't agree more, I like sam as well but much is to be learned...

SAM@GTM

Harry,

We totally disagree with you on needing a built engine. We have sold over 1,000 turbo kits and the engine failure rate is less than 2%. Although, there is always a risk, and anytime you are boosting a car, a stock engine can simply not take the engine power. In any case, your lack of common sense is what put you in this predicament. Remember when you called me about you seeing 40psi on the boost controller and asking me whether or not that was possible? So you bought a used boost controller off eBay (very smart way of protecting your investment) and when the car overboosted doing 40psi, instead of diagnosing the car and finding out what is going on, you buy another boost controller and it does the same exact thing. Then you called me. All it was is that you ignored the selection of the type of wastegate setting on the Blitz boost controller. It needs to know if you have internal or external wastegate. You didn't buy the part from us, you always give us ****, and still, I walked you through setting up the controller. That is why you have a blown engine.

It is unfortunate that your engine failed. But despite us supporting you time and time again, you have an unjustifiably negative attitude towards our company. I don't think it is in both of our best interest to conduct any further business together. We wish you the best of luck.

Sam

blackonorange

I'm speechless

Rusty

Heard from the other side. Don't know what to say either.

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tower74

Seems to be a private matter but hey.....

blackonorange

I'm all for companies defending themselves publicly. Pretty deadly.