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Haha!! :bowrofl:

Hmmm, might be a good business to start. Maybe a partnership with one of the TT kit builders, with a discount to forum members? :tup:

You would think. It's always about money. Most don't invest back in to have stock. They want to be paid first. Also if your fortunate and your motor lets go without throwing a rod threw the block they use there current block to save from buying a new one or paying for a core.

Like I said before, you guys that are about to take the plunge to go fi had better be paying attention because at this point I have no options for a built block and even when I do manage to get my hands on one it will still take a lot of time to install the turbo kit again and then install the motor... At this point Iam seriously considering buying another stock motor and selling the tt kit and then selling the car.

If I were in your shoes I'd buy another stock shortblock and swap it over. If I had to guess, the reason yours failed was overboosting. With that problem solved, you would be good to go.

I agree with this. Find you a nice used motor and swap it over. It will be cheaper and you will be driving your car in no time.

I also agree. It shouldn't be too bad swapping over. Then, you could build your stock motor (if it is salvageable) at whatever speed you desire without the need to rush. Just my :twocents:

Sorry to hear this happened to you. I have been watching closely for lessons learned and taking note!

guys dont under estimate the cost and burden of inventory in this industry.

products for these cars are not only extremely expensive, but extremely specific. I mean, each product fits just a few years of an exact model. Makes it very difficult to afford/justify inventory because stuff sits around forever.

As we put together our engine package based on what we are doing with mine... I will stock some of the parts, but I could not afford to stock the entire engine. Because if I did, anyone who called looking for one, is going to want something different anyway... you guys *ALL* want something different!!!!!! lol. or some new trend of rod or piston or something starts, and then boom, stuck with an engine that nobody wants!

now for the truth you guys don't want to hear.... you know who's responsibility it is to stock a built engine? the guys running 500+hp on stock VQ :)

I've been to GTM, they... Should... Well... If it was run well, and they didn't keep and hold peoples' money for 2 years at a time and piss people off, they'd have the money to stock anything they want

I am not saying shops cannot afford it in a literal sense of not having the money. I am saying that it's not worth having the money tied up in unless you have a really steady engine program and you know that an engine is not going to sit any longer than 4-6 weeks or so.

I guess they think out of the 100+ people on the group buy that not one will pop. But who cares at that point because they made their money... I was hoping APS would make a TT kit like they did for the 350z... Also not everyone is going to have extra money to put in an over built motor when all most need is just a basic motor with forged internals and a lower compression. I am sorry but there is no excuse but poor management.

Lol, I'm a cost accountant, I know the holding cost of inventory.
Their turn around and pissing off customers is what's holding them back

Oh man... I take it you were one of the 3 people that had a positive experience with APS? I dont know about you, but I was around for the entire ride with APS from when they showed up to when they vanished... and theres a lot of similarities in the situation there. I dont know that any manufacturer has yet to display the arrogance that was APS.

I remember you from the 350z forum and yes I was pleased with my aps kit. No drilling or tapping of anything and my old car is still on the road today with that kit. I also have a friend in dallas who has a aps single turbo with almost 200k miles. Gtm has a very good TT kit but they lack business savvy and should not be making promises they cannot keep. The sad thing is, now everything is finally catching up to them in a bad way because bad news travels faster than good news. You people are going to be stuck down the road because look at what is happening now with your kits. If I had it to do again I would not invested so much money in a company that who knows where will be down the road...