If I were in your shoes I'd buy another stock shortblock and swap it over. If I had to guess, the reason yours failed was overboosting. With that problem solved, you would be good to go.

I agree with this. Find you a nice used motor and swap it over. It will be cheaper and you will be driving your car in no time.

I also agree. It shouldn't be too bad swapping over. Then, you could build your stock motor (if it is salvageable) at whatever speed you desire without the need to rush. Just my :twocents:

Sorry to hear this happened to you. I have been watching closely for lessons learned and taking note!

guys dont under estimate the cost and burden of inventory in this industry.

products for these cars are not only extremely expensive, but extremely specific. I mean, each product fits just a few years of an exact model. Makes it very difficult to afford/justify inventory because stuff sits around forever.

As we put together our engine package based on what we are doing with mine... I will stock some of the parts, but I could not afford to stock the entire engine. Because if I did, anyone who called looking for one, is going to want something different anyway... you guys *ALL* want something different!!!!!! lol. or some new trend of rod or piston or something starts, and then boom, stuck with an engine that nobody wants!

now for the truth you guys don't want to hear.... you know who's responsibility it is to stock a built engine? the guys running 500+hp on stock VQ :)

I've been to GTM, they... Should... Well... If it was run well, and they didn't keep and hold peoples' money for 2 years at a time and piss people off, they'd have the money to stock anything they want

I am not saying shops cannot afford it in a literal sense of not having the money. I am saying that it's not worth having the money tied up in unless you have a really steady engine program and you know that an engine is not going to sit any longer than 4-6 weeks or so.

I guess they think out of the 100+ people on the group buy that not one will pop. But who cares at that point because they made their money... I was hoping APS would make a TT kit like they did for the 350z... Also not everyone is going to have extra money to put in an over built motor when all most need is just a basic motor with forged internals and a lower compression. I am sorry but there is no excuse but poor management.

Lol, I'm a cost accountant, I know the holding cost of inventory.
Their turn around and pissing off customers is what's holding them back

Oh man... I take it you were one of the 3 people that had a positive experience with APS? I dont know about you, but I was around for the entire ride with APS from when they showed up to when they vanished... and theres a lot of similarities in the situation there. I dont know that any manufacturer has yet to display the arrogance that was APS.

I remember you from the 350z forum and yes I was pleased with my aps kit. No drilling or tapping of anything and my old car is still on the road today with that kit. I also have a friend in dallas who has a aps single turbo with almost 200k miles. Gtm has a very good TT kit but they lack business savvy and should not be making promises they cannot keep. The sad thing is, now everything is finally catching up to them in a bad way because bad news travels faster than good news. You people are going to be stuck down the road because look at what is happening now with your kits. If I had it to do again I would not invested so much money in a company that who knows where will be down the road...

Extra money is a definite....started off at $7000 and it end around $14k+ for my last FI build and now it's a sitting in a box collecting even more rust than it threw into my stock block.(STS GARBAGE!)

Almost feel bad for the poor guy that bought that Z.......almost.

If I win the lottery, I swear to zombie Jesus, I'm going to start a tuner shop that does have all these parts in stock and would be ready in a matter of days to be shipped. I can see the money already stacking up when those one kits are shipped and people start to install them:tup:

I have read a lot on this forum even before taking delivery of my 2013 370Z Sport in July 2013. I had a 2003 350Z and wanted a 370 in a bad way.
I finally got one and gave the 350 to my younger bro. :tup:
which by the way is an awesome car. It's a bit more fun to drive then the 370.

I wanted to boost my 370 and even invested in a complete Stillen SC kit (yeah I know :roflpuke2: ) a month after I purchased the car. It was only then that I really started reading all the threads about FI.

My conclusion as it applies to me. Purchase a GT-R. Yes it is 65 - 75 K more expensive than a stock 370Z. Add all the FI mods and headaches and that 65 - 75 K turns out to be a lot less. The GT-R seems to hold it value as well.
I have sold my FI kit to a forum member here before I installed it. I purchased a LTI, CBE, and springs. I will keep my 370 as close to stock as possible and sell it in a year and upgrade to a GT-R or possibly another car like a 2014 Vette, M3 or 911.
By the way the car is my toy. It is something I always wanted and I now have a few bucks and can afford a toy. It is not a DD.

I enjoy the forum and I am sure there are many FI success stories out there.
Good luck with the repairs Cosmogirl I hear you hinting at the GT-R, thus my motivation to respond.
:driving:

We all know the ultimate risk when we take on an FI project. That doesn't really lessen the sting much when your motor goes down. I know this (like Cosmogirl) all too well. Then with the added downtime and BIG $$$ additional investment it adds insult to injury.
With all the talk of "how much power a stock can handle reliably" it is easy to lie to yourself and say it won't happen to me. I know I did.

You MUST plan for the worst and hope for the best. Otherwise you will be devistated when it does happen to you.
Think of it like shoving three sticks of dynamite to the cylendars when they are designed to handle one or two.

Good luck with the built motor!

[QUOTE=Wattles;2579102]We all know the ultimate risk when we take on an FI project. That doesn't really lessen the sting much when your motor goes down. I know this (like Cosmogirl) all too well. Then with the added downtime and BIG $$$ additional investment it adds insult to injury.
With all the talk of "how much power a stock can handle reliably" it is easy to lie to yourself and say it won't happen to me. I know I did.

You MUST plan for the worst and hope for the best. Otherwise you will be devistated when it does happen to you.
Think of it like shoving three sticks of dynamite to the cylendars when they are designed to handle one or two.

Good luck with the built motor![/QUOT

I see you have a gtm long block?
How long did it take to get from from them? I have the money to pull the trigger but no options.

It's hard to say how long since I was dealing with other issues (like waiting for newly designed manifolds and such).
I'm guessing (and it's a guess based on my experience) that the quoted time will be a few (3 maybe) weeks for a rebuild & mod of your current engine/long block. But I stress you should plan MUCH longer (again based on MY experience).

That being said, I absolutely feel Sam tried to give me a huge break on the work he did. The engine is holding up well and feels super solid.
I think Sam works very hard to make everyone as happy as possible; but completely over extends his ability to crank out cars & kits. This leads to multiple missed deadlines.

Good luck!

(That being said, I absolutely feel Sam tried to give me a huge break on the work he did. The engine is holding up well and feels super solid.
I think Sam works very hard to make everyone as happy as possible; but completely over extends his ability to crank out cars & kits. This leads to multiple missed deadlines.)

I couldn't agree more, I like sam as well but much is to be learned...

Dude, I'll come work for you. Nothing I like better than building engines. I just don't have the space. I've been thinking of the whole 'hit the lottery' thing. I'm thinking a multiple bay shop, dyno, paint booth and machine shop. The midwest needs another world-class Z shop. :tup:

And throw a quarter mile drag strip behind the shop! Tuners dream all in one stop.

I agree! :tup: :tup:

[QUOTE=cosmogirl;2579119]Thats exactly why im having my engine built getting ready for my fi tt kit

Sorry to hear ur troubles bro

Harry,

We totally disagree with you on needing a built engine. We have sold over 1,000 turbo kits and the engine failure rate is less than 2%. Although, there is always a risk, and anytime you are boosting a car, a stock engine can simply not take the engine power. In any case, your lack of common sense is what put you in this predicament. Remember when you called me about you seeing 40psi on the boost controller and asking me whether or not that was possible? So you bought a used boost controller off eBay (very smart way of protecting your investment) and when the car overboosted doing 40psi, instead of diagnosing the car and finding out what is going on, you buy another boost controller and it does the same exact thing. Then you called me. All it was is that you ignored the selection of the type of wastegate setting on the Blitz boost controller. It needs to know if you have internal or external wastegate. You didn't buy the part from us, you always give us ****, and still, I walked you through setting up the controller. That is why you have a blown engine.

It is unfortunate that your engine failed. But despite us supporting you time and time again, you have an unjustifiably negative attitude towards our company. I don't think it is in both of our best interest to conduct any further business together. We wish you the best of luck.

Sam

I'm speechless

Seems to be a private matter but hey..... :drama:

Heard from the other side. :icon14: Don't know what to say either.

I'm all for companies defending themselves publicly. Pretty deadly.

For one I never saw 40 psi and yes is it your obligation to help with setting up a boost controller. Not blaming gtm for my motor popping but your service is just plain CRAP and that's why people are backing out of your group buy. What would happen if something happened to you sam would mike step up and run gtm? I think not and everyone who invested in your company would be SCREWED. And the thng is you think its only me who feels this way. Look around sam but I have a feeling you already have and don't like what you see but hey if it makes you feel better going after me then go ahead. I regret going with your company and wish I would have waited and went with a better company that actually cares about their customers and can meet a deadline.. Lesson learned and a 12k mistake!!!!!
I take full responsibility for my actions regarding my motor but maybe one day gtm can man up and take responsibility for all of their screw-ups...

Also I ran into the guy your company screwed in Pensacola Florida that spent 40k on your company. There are a lot more than 2% that have popped their motors and you and mike know it but you also know that will hurt your sales if the real numbers got out. I am not getting in a pissing match with you but I will set the record straight.

Does anyone have any experience with S&R Performance out of tampa? I spoke with bobby there and he is working me up a price on a built long block.

PM Isamu. That is where he got his single turbo from.

Alright now you have me worried.. Is this good or bad news?:eekdance:

The forum members "Nissan370" and "FireDan50" also had builds done by that company recently. You should contact those two as well.

Have you contacted Dynosty?

No, I have never heard of them...

Dynosty is a great company. Haven't heard much from g37s but g35 n 350 yes. Hal is a Haltech master.

Import parts pro made my custom build block. contact Kyle@IPP he really know what he's doing.

Please do share the info you get about VSR, previously S&R. Seems legit if one is okay with the single turbo route.

Sorry bro but I disagree. Unless the boost control was included or purchased threw GTM they are not obligated.

Really spohn, your so wishy washy on everything. And to be honest I really don't know if that even was what caused it because I had zero issues since. My main concern now is to find a built block to get up and going. I have better things to do besides deal with gtm on their issues.

Why you always come at me man? Dude, I like you and have no beef. But I'm going to come straight with you on with my feelings. That's not wishy washy nor is that a GTM related issue.

I will call around again tomorrow to some of these other places and let everyone know what I find out on options for others who will need a built block soon...