Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

elperuano · 11-22-2013, 08:24 PM

Whatcha talkin bout Willis! Lol

How much did ur kit cost u total?

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Whatcha talkin bout Willis! Lol

How much did ur kit cost u total?

I grew up with that show so you are about the 10,000th person to say that to me!

I have about 10K in the stillen supercharger, cat back exhaust,oil cooler and trans cooler.

future370zzz · 11-22-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Just to add my.02 in cause I was down this road . The stock kit in NO SHAPE or form will make 460 WHP , just not going to happen . Before. I had my car custom tuned I only made 40 more WHP than my bolted tune. An to get to 460 WHP you have to change everything including the impeller on the SC

I hope I hit 460whp on 91 octane.

1slow370 · 11-22-2013, 08:35 PM

Does he get a prize for being 10000th?

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Does he get a prize for being 10000th?

If he does I promise he doesn't want it!

JWillis72 · 11-22-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by future370zzz

I hope I hit 460whp on 91 octane.

If your going to live in a magic world why not 1000whp?

elperuano · 11-22-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I grew up with that show so you are about the 10,000th person to say that to me!

I have about 10K in the stillen supercharger, cat back exhaust,oil cooler and trans cooler.

Lol poor guy.
As for the kit. Wow 10k. This is the part I don't understand. For that amount you spent in total you could have gotten a far superior kit. I have the stage 2 with 3"dp 3"exhaust oil cooler n clutch. I'm around 12-13k. Way more power and room to grow. Just don't seem worth it to short yourself when we almost spent the same amount of money on our FI systems.

TKomodo · 11-22-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Just to add my.02 in cause I was down this road . The stock kit in NO SHAPE or form will make 460 WHP , just not going to happen . Before. I had my car custom tuned I only made 40 more WHP than my bolted tune. An to get to 460 WHP you have to change everything including the impeller on the SC

An inexpensive mod for more hp ($/hp) is a meth kit.

1087 · 11-22-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

In addition, the magazine claims 1.72 whp from an oil change. An amount that low is within the realm of run-to-run dyno variance, and can't be attributed to the oil change. The numbers are "buy these products from our advertisers" numbers.

Are you aware these numbers aren't accurate? Have you ever dynoed the car at another location to verify these quite frankly unheard of numbers, or are you going off the word of the magazine?

It's just the peak numbers that are incorrect. When you look at the change from stock, the Stillen kit gave you 116 extra whp. The custom tune added another 44. These are in line with the experiences of others.

Well Chuck... you are trying to school me here, but with all due respect, I'm very aware of dynomometers, correction factors,etc,etc, obviously you don't know much about me, thanks for your input but I don't need it, you are still missing the fundamental points here, and you know what? I'm not going to tell you what it is, it's too long to type all that, and quite frankly you driving a Z, we are having fun with our cars, that's what it really counts,anything else will be unwelcome because your statement/s are not showing finesse a remarkable lack of respect for people that are extremely honest with the community,etc,etc..

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Pow pow pow.. Winnarrrrr chuck.

Peruvian, seems that you have fun with anything that diminishing the CARB legal kit, lets laugh together, you are funny

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Just dyno it elsewhere. Prove them wrong. 😊

thanks

Bart

No need to do that Sir, there are many variables, but also many fundamental points, it's all good!

elperuano · 11-22-2013, 11:19 PM

I'm having a ball here. It's just that you come off trying to sound super intelligent which is fine but its been proven over and over from countless experiences, from well respected members and vendors that the Stillen kit is inferior.

I'm not sure what ur trying to do but at this point I have to believe that u work for Stillen and u wanna keep collecting a check. If what has been said in this thread and the countless other threads about Stillen doesn't make sense to you then so be it. There's always that 1 guy that just can't be reached. Hell even OP himself admitted that he won't win the number game and just wants a ride with a little more power.

case closed!

also that carb legal kit is with THEIR tune. If u do custom tune CARB is out the window. And well...... Just ask anyone what they put down with their kit.

1087 · 11-23-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

I'm having a ball here. It's just that you come off trying to sound super intelligent which is fine but its been proven over and over from countless experiences, from well respected members and vendors that the Stillen kit is inferior.

I'm not sure what ur trying to do but at this point I have to believe that u work for Stillen and u wanna keep collecting a check. If what has been said in this thread and the countless other threads about Stillen doesn't make sense to you then so be it. There's always that 1 guy that just can't be reached. Hell even OP himself admitted that he won't win the number game and just wants a ride with a little more power.

case closed!

also that carb legal kit is with THEIR tune. If u do custom tune CARB is out the window. And well...... Just ask anyone what they put down with their kit.

I like your approach, but you are also missing the point.
IDK if I'm super intelligent, but I did not compare or said on any of my post that the Stillen kit is superior to anything, all I did is offer info about DSPORT results with my car.
A bunch of you come over saying that is inferior compared to any other kits, but now let me ask you something, how you can compare a CARB legal kit with tons of restrictions to get the exemption with other kits including yours without any limitations because they are not made to comply with CARB?
Do you think that they( STILLEN) are not capable to put it together a kit non CARB oriented to compete with the other kits in the market?
You guys are mixing apples with oranges,so IDK if I'm very intelligent, but you may review yourself your way to compare different kits.
About if I work for Stillen, since you are an intelligent guy just click 1087 and then you will see what I do and where and how I make my check from, probably you can learn something too.
Sorry to respond your points, but you are moving towards the personal side base in your biased unfair comparisons between different kits, built with total different targets and hinting that I work for Stillen.
The CARB legal numbers are impressive for a street car, so there is case closed, the rest is forum BS.
How your Z is running? are you happy with it?

Sh0velMan · 11-23-2013, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 1087

Well Chuck... you are trying to school me here, but with all due respect, I'm very aware of dynomometers, correction factors,etc,etc, obviously you don't know much about me, thanks for your input but I don't need it, you are still missing the fundamental points here, and you know what? I'm not going to tell you what it is, it's too long to type all that, and quite frankly you driving a Z, we are having fun with our cars, that's what it really counts,anything else will be unwelcome because your statement/s are not showing finesse a remarkable lack of respect for people that are extremely honest with the community,etc,etc..

Peruvian, seems that you have fun with anything that diminishing the CARB legal kit, lets laugh together, you are funny

No need to do that Sir, there are many variables, but also many fundamental points, it's all good!

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Originally Posted by 1087

I like your approach, but you are also missing the point.
IDK if I'm super intelligent, but I did not compare or said on any of my post that the Stillen kit is superior to anything, all I did is offer info about DSPORT results with my car.
A bunch of you come over saying that is inferior compared to any other kits, but now let me ask you something, how you can compare a CARB legal kit with tons of restrictions to get the exemption with other kits including yours without any limitations because they are not made to comply with CARB?
Do you think that they( STILLEN) are not capable to put it together a kit non CARB oriented to compete with the other kits in the market?
You guys are mixing apples with oranges,so IDK if I'm very intelligent, but you may review yourself your way to compare different kits.
About if I work for Stillen, since you are an intelligent guy just click 1087 and then you will see what I do and where and how I make my check from, probably you can learn something too.
Sorry to respond your points, but you are moving towards the personal side base in your biased unfair comparisons between different kits, built with total different targets and hinting that I work for Stillen.
The CARB legal numbers are impressive for a street car, so there is case closed, the rest is forum BS.
How your Z is running? are you happy with it?

You're saying we're missing the point?

All we're saying is that the power numbers you say you got (and that got printed in that worthless magazine) are bloated for press and you shouldn't be telling potential buyers that they can expect those kinds of numbers, because that's wrong. I know from personal experience with a guy on this forum that lives right down the street from me... he got in to it thinking he could get 500hp from that kit because the Stillen site says you can. He's custom tuned, had to replace the injectors with some real 600cc's and has a meth kit and can manage 415 WHP before it heat soaks. ~408 without the meth. (He's not tuned for lots of meth so it's mostly water to drop charge temp)

How can we be missing the point? Wrong is wrong is wrong.

And yeah all that ******** talk about being CARB legal? Your car isn't CARB legal if it isn't running the canned tune, period.

Chuck33079 · 11-23-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1087

Well Chuck... you are trying to school me here, but with all due respect, I'm very aware of dynomometers, correction factors,etc,etc, obviously you don't know much about me, thanks for your input but I don't need it, you are still missing the fundamental points here, and you know what? I'm not going to tell you what it is, it's too long to type all that, and quite frankly you driving a Z, we are having fun with our cars, that's what it really counts,anything else will be unwelcome because your statement/s are not showing finesse a remarkable lack of respect for people that are extremely honest with the community,etc,etc..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1087

IDK if I'm super intelligent, but I did not compare or said on any of my post that the Stillen kit is superior to anything, all I did is offer info about DSPORT results with my car.
A bunch of you come over saying that is inferior compared to any other kits, but now let me ask you something, how you can compare a CARB legal kit with tons of restrictions to get the exemption with other kits including yours without any limitations because they are not made to comply with CARB?
Do you think that they( STILLEN) are not capable to put it together a kit non CARB oriented to compete with the other kits in the market?
You guys are mixing apples with oranges,so IDK if I'm very intelligent, but you may review yourself your way to compare different kits.
About if I work for Stillen, since you are an intelligent guy just click 1087 and then you will see what I do and where and how I make my check from, probably you can learn something too.
Sorry to respond your points, but you are moving towards the personal side base in your biased unfair comparisons between different kits, built with total different targets and hinting that I work for Stillen.
The CARB legal numbers are impressive for a street car, so there is case closed, the rest is forum BS.
How your Z is running? are you happy with it?

For someone who claims to understand how things work, you sure seem to be missing the point. Your numbers are artificially inflated. Full stop. That's not lacking finesse or being disrespectful, that's just a fact. Your car did not make 293whp stock, nor did it make 460whp after all was said and done. Not with an unmodified kit. I'm sure it's fast. I'm sure it's a lot of fun. The whp increase is right in line with others with the kit, and it adds quite a bit of power. But you're taking the magazines' word on your car, and they have an incentive to be overly optimistic. I don't care if you think your car makes 1whp or 1000whp, I just don't want the OP to think that his Stillen kit is going to give him anywhere near 460whp without substantial modification, as has been proven by multiple members here. Also, he is in Israel, so CARB means nothing to him. Being CARB legal is only useful to people in CA. Also, isn't your kit no longer CARB legal with your custom tune?

JWillis72 · 11-24-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Lol poor guy.
As for the kit. Wow 10k. This is the part I don't understand. For that amount you spent in total you could have gotten a far superior kit. I have the stage 2 with 3"dp 3"exhaust oil cooler n clutch. I'm around 12-13k. Way more power and room to grow. Just don't seem worth it to short yourself when we almost spent the same amount of money on our FI systems.

Don't feel bad for me!
The supercharger kit was only $6,300. The 10K includes install,oil cooler,trans cooler and cat back exhaust. I don't need more power, the 7AT is rated for 300 tq and my car made 302 tq on the dyno. I've added around 40% to the HP and I'm good with that. I'm concerned that the engine will be able to handle what it has now when it gets out on the track so I have no desire to add to it. I couldn't care less about the numbers game, I wanted to give the car a little more in the straights and I definitely have done that.

Nissan370 · 11-24-2013, 01:50 PM

Stillens canned tune is pig rich. And how the hell you make 460rwhp on that tune is beyond me. With a cat back exhaust , high flow cats and custom tune I made 436rwhp and did a back up dyno at another shop 431rwhp

There is more then a few of us on this forum that did the Stillen thing trust me no one is going to come to this forum and make anyone believe Stillen kits are great

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Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 14	Stillens canned tune is pig rich. And how the hell you make 460rwhp on that tune is beyond me. With a cat back exhaust , high flow cats and custom tune I made 436rwhp and did a back up dyno at another shop 431rwhp There is more then a few of us on this forum that did the Stillen thing trust me no one is going to come to this forum and make anyone believe Stillen kits are great __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out) Last edited by Nissan370; 11-24-2013 at 01:55 PM.

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11-22-2013, 08:24 PM	#196 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	Whatcha talkin bout Willis! Lol How much did ur kit cost u total?

11-22-2013, 11:19 PM	#205 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	I'm having a ball here. It's just that you come off trying to sound super intelligent which is fine but its been proven over and over from countless experiences, from well respected members and vendors that the Stillen kit is inferior. I'm not sure what ur trying to do but at this point I have to believe that u work for Stillen and u wanna keep collecting a check. If what has been said in this thread and the countless other threads about Stillen doesn't make sense to you then so be it. There's always that 1 guy that just can't be reached. Hell even OP himself admitted that he won't win the number game and just wants a ride with a little more power. case closed! also that carb legal kit is with THEIR tune. If u do custom tune CARB is out the window. And well...... Just ask anyone what they put down with their kit.