Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

1087 · 11-21-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

My kit arrived October 4th 2013 and came with 600cc injectors. I do remember seeing IDC of 90% during the tuning but only in areas that were running way rich. In the final tune I don't remember seeing anything above low 80s. On my kit I know there is plenty of injector because the caned tune was running way to much fuel to the engine. My kit is also at 406whp so they might not be enough for 500+ but for my car they are working great.

Yes the caned tune it's way too reach if you look at the tables that I posted.
Obviously they had to cover few parameters, hence that tune came with the kit.
You are spot in your post about IDC percentages.

TKomodo · 11-21-2013, 08:23 PM

The parts list I have just says 6 injectors. How can you tell what size they are? There are no markings to indicate what size they are.

JWillis72 · 11-21-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TKomodo

The parts list I have just says 6 injectors. How can you tell what size they are? There are no markings to indicate what size they are.

I can't remember if it was on the injector or if we looked up a part number during install. I don't think the part number is listed anywhere in the paper work. Do you have it installed?

TKomodo · 11-21-2013, 08:38 PM

No..Not installed yet. Kit is still the box. Waiting on supporting mods

JWillis72 · 11-21-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TKomodo

No..Not installed yet. Kit is still the box. Waiting on supporting mods

Can you pull out your injectors so we can see what they sent you?

TKomodo · 11-21-2013, 09:16 PM

I'm am unable to attach a picture from my phone

JWillis72 · 11-21-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TKomodo

I'm am unable to attach a picture from my phone

Is there a part number or cc?

1087 · 11-21-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TKomodo

I'm am unable to attach a picture from my phone

If you take the time to read my first attachment from DSPORT it clearly said under "fueling the fire" paragraph the injectors size.

TKomodo · 11-22-2013, 09:54 AM

here is what I have

Sh0velMan · 11-22-2013, 10:20 AM

So, on the subject of the car in DSPORT...

The baseline pull was abnormally high for a 370Z.

We can, however, normalize the results, which make for some very believable findings... It isn't exactly scientific, but it's better than nothing.

If we go with the "275hp stock" number that most people agree is the average...

275 / 293 = .939

409 * .939 = 384HP Stillen Baseline

All the other ****:
453 * .939 = 425HP.

Which is believable in ideal conditions.

Chuck33079 · 11-22-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

So, on the subject of the car in DSPORT...

The baseline pull was abnormally high for a 370Z.

We can, however, normalize the results, which make for some very believable findings... It isn't exactly scientific, but it's better than nothing.

If we go with the "275hp stock" number that most people agree is the average...

275 / 293 = .939

409 * .939 = 384HP Stillen Baseline

All the other ****:
453 * .939 = 425HP.

Which is believable in ideal conditions.

That makes more sense. All of the other guys putting down 450whp+ had swapped out a lot of the kit's components.

Sh0velMan · 11-22-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That makes more sense. All of the other guys putting down 450whp+ had swapped out a lot of the kit's components.

Yeah, and just to be clear, me saying the pull is abnormally high isn't me saying that the car puts out more power than others.

It's me saying that dyno's correction factors are wrong.

Chuck33079 · 11-22-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Yeah, and just to be clear, me saying the pull is abnormally high isn't me saying that the car puts out more power than others.

It's me saying that dyno's correction factors are wrong.

Yeah, either it's a high reading dyno all the time, or inflated for magazine use. I'm sure it's a blast to drive, but people looking to buy a Stillen kit need to understand 460whp is not the norm. At all.

Sh0velMan · 11-22-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yeah, either it's a high reading dyno all the time, or inflated for magazine use. I'm sure it's a blast to drive, but people looking to buy a Stillen kit need to understand 460whp is not the norm. At all.

Beyond the norm, it's not even possible without significant changes to the kit. Plus I'd say 600CC injectors are gonna be close to their limits @ 460WHP.

Don't most of the Stage 1 turbo kits and the Stage 1 GTM S/C come with 660's?

Chuck33079 · 11-22-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Beyond the norm, it's not even possible without significant changes to the kit. Plus I'd say 600CC injectors are gonna be close to their limits @ 460WHP.

Don't most of the Stage 1 turbo kits and the Stage 1 GTM S/C come with 660's?

Yep.

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Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	So, on the subject of the car in DSPORT... The baseline pull was abnormally high for a 370Z. We can, however, normalize the results, which make for some very believable findings... It isn't exactly scientific, but it's better than nothing. If we go with the "275hp stock" number that most people agree is the average... 275 / 293 = .939 *409 .939 = 384HP Stillen Baseline All the other : 453 * .939 = 425HP. Which is believable in ideal conditions. elperuano and Chuck33079 like this. __________________ Buy My Car!** \| Build Thread

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11-21-2013, 08:23 PM	#167 (permalink)
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