Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 03:01 PM

Could you recommend any gauges chuck

thanks

Bart

Chuck33079 · 11-18-2013, 03:03 PM

Defi boost and Innovate AFR are working fine for me.

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 03:14 PM

Oh you mean boost by defi and afr by innovate

thanks

Bart

Chuck33079 · 11-18-2013, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

Oh you mean boost by defi and afr by innovate

thanks

Bart

Correct, but any name brand will do. Personally I'd stay away from "budget" lines like Prosport and Glowshift.

future370zzz · 11-18-2013, 04:05 PM

For 7AT, a transmission temp gauge is recommended. High trans temp will shorten the life of your transmission. GTM wrote a report on it.

I am going Stillen also and will be installing a PLX digital multi gauge in the Clock gauge location. It will let me monitor everything on the car with just one gauge.

Will probably go to a vented hood for the California summers first. Still on the fence about the upgraded heat exchanger vs custom intercooler setup.

Chuck33079 · 11-18-2013, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by future370zzz

I am going Stillen also and will be installing a PLX digital multi gauge in the Clock gauge location. It will let me monitor everything on the car with just one gauge.

Since you have to replace all three dash gauges if you do one, what are you putting in the other two locations?

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 04:08 PM

Any names of the plx gauge? Where to get it?

thanks

Bart

1slow370 · 11-18-2013, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

Yeah the worst things about the stillen kit are going to be in order 1. Tune 2. Manifold/intercooler setup 3.intake/MAF sensor piping 4. Restictive offset coupler on supercharger inlet

edit: after that its just that the headunit is to small to hit 650hp on the air hungry vhr

2. The stillen manifold/intercooler setup is not efficient enough and there are power gains by switching to a front mount because of the cooler iat

3. The piping after the supercharger with the mafs in it is under sized and delivers different amounts of air to both sensors, because of the smaller diameter it also will max out the maf sensors range bellow 500 hp so your car wont know how much air its getting past that

4. Because of the sharp bends it has to make the intake coupler is a significant airflow restrictor

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 04:10 PM

I bought the kiwi apparatus that connects to the "plug". Never used it. Will it show those things?

thanks

Bart

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

2. The stillen manifold/intercooler setup is not efficient enough and there are power gains by switching to a front mount because of the cooler iat

3. The piping after the supercharger with the mafs in it is under sized and delivers different amounts of air to both sensors, because of the smaller diameter it also will max out the maf sensors range bellow 500 hp so your car wont know how much air its getting past that

4. Because of the sharp bends it has to make the intake coupler is a significant airflow restrictor

😭 damn

thanks

Bart

theDreamer · 11-18-2013, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

I bought the kiwi apparatus that connects to the "plug". Never used it. Will it show those things?

thanks

Bart

That is an OBD2 plug most likely, it can read many things which the ECU spits out.
Things it will be lacking probably are:
-Boost
-AFR (do not trust what the ECU thinks)
-Oil pressure? This one I am not 100% sure on

JWillis72 · 11-18-2013, 05:32 PM

It looks like you can add a boost sensor and AFR to that thing.

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 05:37 PM

I just talked to gtm about their cages and from what I understand the very critical gauge is the AFR gauge so I think I'm going to go for the AFR gauge. I guess if the AFR is off meaning the car is running too lean then the engine could blow but boost is a different issue and it's much easier felt. AFR is the silent killer

thanks

Bart

SS_Firehawk · 11-18-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

I just talked to gtm about their cages and from what I understand the very critical gauge is the AFR gauge so I think I'm going to go for the AFR gauge. I guess if the AFR is off meaning the car is running too lean then the engine could blow but boost is a different issue and it's much easier felt. AFR is the silent killer

thanks

Bart

You should go to the MHI TT thread and tell them all you had to do to contact GTM from across the Earth was place a call.

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 07:16 PM

Finally useful info. Thanks firehawk.

thanks

Bart

11-18-2013, 03:03 PM	#77 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Defi boost and Innovate AFR are working fine for me. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-18-2013, 07:16 PM	#90 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	Finally useful info. Thanks firehawk. thanks Bart Last edited by Shamrock; 11-18-2013 at 07:28 PM.

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11-18-2013, 03:01 PM	#76 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	Could you recommend any gauges chuck thanks Bart

11-18-2013, 03:14 PM	#78 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	Oh you mean boost by defi and afr by innovate thanks Bart

11-18-2013, 04:05 PM	#80 (permalink)
future370zzz Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bay Area Posts: 555 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	For 7AT, a transmission temp gauge is recommended. High trans temp will shorten the life of your transmission. GTM wrote a report on it. I am going Stillen also and will be installing a PLX digital multi gauge in the Clock gauge location. It will let me monitor everything on the car with just one gauge. Will probably go to a vented hood for the California summers first. Still on the fence about the upgraded heat exchanger vs custom intercooler setup.

11-18-2013, 04:08 PM	#82 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	Any names of the plx gauge? Where to get it? thanks Bart

11-18-2013, 04:10 PM	#84 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	I bought the kiwi apparatus that connects to the "plug". Never used it. Will it show those things? thanks Bart

11-18-2013, 05:32 PM	#87 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	It looks like you can add a boost sensor and AFR to that thing.

11-18-2013, 05:37 PM	#88 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	I just talked to gtm about their cages and from what I understand the very critical gauge is the AFR gauge so I think I'm going to go for the AFR gauge. I guess if the AFR is off meaning the car is running too lean then the engine could blow but boost is a different issue and it's much easier felt. AFR is the silent killer thanks Bart