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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 Oil or water? My oil temps are rock solid, it's the water temps that fluctuate in the summer. Oil. I don't have a temp gauge yet

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Old 11-18-2013, 02:23 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Oil or water? My oil temps are rock solid, it's the water temps that fluctuate in the summer.
Oil. I don't have a temp gauge yet for water. Gauges are driving me insane right now
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Oil. I don't have a temp gauge yet for water. Gauges are driving me insane right now
In the summer in Houston, you'll see the water temps move 2-3 dots if you're stuck in traffic. That's even with an upgraded radiator. The OP is in Israel, so he's got even more heat to deal with.
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In the summer in Houston, you'll see the water temps move 2-3 dots if you're stuck in traffic. That's even with an upgraded radiator. The OP is in Israel, so he's got even more heat to deal with.
Good point. Do you use water wetter?
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Yep. I need to drain the whole system and use less antifreeze. I'll grab the GTM fans and hopefully vent the hood before next summer.
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Yep. I need to drain the whole system and use less antifreeze. I'll grab the GTM fans and hopefully vent the hood before next summer.
We don't get cold enough to freeze here so I run water wetter and water only.
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Yeah the worst things about the stillen kit are going to be in order 1. Tune 2. Manifold/intercooler setup 3.intake/MAF sensor piping 4. Restictive offset coupler on supercharger inlet

edit: after that its just that the headunit is to small to hit 650hp on the air hungry vhr
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So I can assume you guys have afr gauges and boost gauges?

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Yeah the worst things about the stillen kit are going to be in order 1. Tune 2. Manifold/intercooler setup 3.intake/MAF sensor piping 4. Restictive offset coupler on supercharger inlet
Can you explain your 4 in layman's terms? Number 1 is obvious. Could you also go how I would correct this?

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I want you guys to realize that things here are very expensive (off the charts) because of customs tax.
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My car cost me 105,000 dollars. Just to get the standard Stillen/GTM kit here would be around 13,000 dollars. My friend who posted here 530 or so WHP paid these amounts for his kit (GTM). The short is that someone bought the Stillen kit and decided not to install it. He is willing to sell it to me for about 5500 dollars. That's cheap for here; very cheap. I know that the kit won't make the same HP as the GTM; although, I am not really sure why (not technical at all.) I just know how to drive. What would you guys do? Either no kit (can't afford GTM here), or get the Stillen?
I think I was misunderstood in my original post. My intentions now are to install the kit as is and with a proper tune get the max HP out of it. You must realize that because of the prices here car upgrades are a very grey area. Almost everyone in the states knows the basics such as how to change the oil or small repairs. Here it's the exact opposite. As to the guy that said that I didn't do research; well I did and my pockets aren't deep enough for the GTM (13000 dollars.) What I would like to know from the forum members is what realistic HP I'll be gaining with a custom tune and whether the Stillen kit is a good and reliable kit for what it is. If anyone says anything different then maybe I'll say "screw the kit" and I'll continue stock. The most important thing for me is reliability; meaning a daily driver with almost no hiccups.
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There we go. NOW it makes sense brother. If I could get a Stillen kit for half, you're god damn right I would.

Just get an extra oil cooler and keep it as cool as possible




Btw, if you want to get around customs, have the shipper put "Free of charge warranty repair" on the box or "Free repair for customer"
Gotten out of paying tax many times using that method ;-)
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So I can assume you guys have afr gauges and boost gauges?

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I don't but am trying to figure out where to add them.
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Living in similar temps as you, I spent about $4300 in cooling alone, not including methanol injection. This included the GTM radiator, shroud and fan upgrade, baffled oil pan, and two 19 row oil coolers with labor factored in.. a methonol injection kit is very optional. You can use it to cool your intake charge as well as tune for some extra power. It's not cheap though and the Stillen kit won't be pushing big numbers like the GTM kits.

Of all the things that is recommended, the radiator is your weak link since you have an oil cooler. We aren't saying you have to buy GTMs, (it's by far the best) but at a minimum, spending $600 for a CSF radiator. is a very good idea.

I have not had the chance to log my water temps, but even with two 19 row oil coolers, my temps have climbed up to 105℃ and that was just driving hard on the street or dyno.
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I don't but am trying to figure out where to add them.
Mine are on the A-pillar. I didn't feel like ripping out the dash to replace the OEM gauges.
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What temperature okay? Does anyone have an AFR or boost gauge

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Mine are on the A-pillar. I didn't feel like ripping out the dash to replace the OEM gauges.
What gauges you got?

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Defi boost and innovate AFR. That's all you "need", but I still want a few more for piece of mind.
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