Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

1slow370 · 11-18-2013, 01:47 AM

Yup gonna need a bigger blower which is a problem because they dont fit with the stillen brackets. Good luck though you have a step uphill battle to fight because that kit has been dissected and rebuilt for so long here in the states its hard to see where you are going to find more power without throwing out half the kit. Dont forget about giving 928motorsports out of wisconsin a call for their billet wheel and high speed bearing upgrades if you are going to stick with the stillen head unit. Ported housing wouldnt be a bad idea, as well as doing something different with intake filter and coupler and not using the stillen manifold, intercooler, or piping, and DEFINITLEY not using their tune.

1slow370 · 11-18-2013, 05:53 AM

Now that i reread that, yup youre going to end up throwing most of it out. Thats why people buy the gtm kits i guess

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Nissan370 · 11-18-2013, 07:08 AM

Hehe trust me it's not the head unit that's the problem it's the kits configuration
That small water to air cooler is not going to get it
You will be just blowing hot air into the motor and your computer will pull timing

You would have to remake that kit to get big power out of it

Larger cooling system maybe change over to fmic
Fab. The intake pipping and move the maf sensors

The v3 is a good head unit but like anything it's only as strong as it's weakest link

I would have saved my sell tons of money if I did alittle more research before buying that kit

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 07:25 AM

Guys, no one has anything positive to say about the stillen setup?

thanks

Bart

DEpointfive0 · 11-18-2013, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

Guys, no one has anything positive to say about the stillen setup?

thanks

Bart

It's cheaper than the GTM? If you live in CA it's legal to drive with it...?

Besides that... No one... No reason to say anything positive... It's a really expensive way to make it faster... Momentarily... Nitrous is much cheaper and the $4k+ you'll save going that route can be used on Nitrous fill ups.

God knows where you're getting nitrous in Israel, but pay off a dentist or something

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 07:32 AM

So why do people buy it? Besides carb reasons.

thanks

Bart

DEpointfive0 · 11-18-2013, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

So why do people buy it? Besides carb reasons.

thanks

Bart

BESIDES CARB?
Great advertisement, people don't know any better, people are enticed that they can buy an engine warranty.

I tell you that I don't know anyone personally who is TRULY satisfied with it. I know a local guy who has his car fully Stillen kitted out (whole body kit), had the kit installed AT Stillen, and all he says is that after he guns it once or twice oil temp skyrockets and his car is slower than before

Chuck33079 · 11-18-2013, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

people don't know any better

Unfortunately, this. The only reason someone who isn't crippled by California emissions laws buys a Stillen kit is lack of research.

G37Sam · 11-18-2013, 08:04 AM

^ +100

The Stillen SC kit looks very good on their site, the description is well written and the numbers are very tempting. Someone who hasn't done his forum time and read the various reviews would never know what the real deal is.

Google "370Z Supercharger" and see what comes up

JWillis72 · 11-18-2013, 08:53 AM

I love my Stillen kit and it's a blast to drive but I was never trying to hit a number. I wanted to give the car more power and I am thrilled with it now that the Stillen tune is off of it. I don't think you will like the kit if your goal is 550whp because the kit isn't designed to get you there. I know others have been told different but Stillen told me 500 hp at the motor not the wheels.

ANMVQ · 11-18-2013, 09:51 AM

Here we go again , I tried this too we all remember?? I made 457 WHP and 330 wtrq at 11psi. With a bunch of upgrades(stg 2 kit) ! Impeller, fuel, and custom frontmount heat exchanger , and MAF's , if you make more than that I'll be very supprised . As it was said already the headers Stillen has said won't help, an the blocks limit is around 13 PSI ( was told by my tuner for a SC) so I wouldn't suggest going that high on the motor or trans .
Oh did I mention my motor BOOM'd also.

elperuano · 11-18-2013, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips

Looking forward to see how much power this will put down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

Guys, no one has anything positive to say about the stillen setup?

thanks

Bart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Unfortunately, this. The only reason someone who isn't crippled by California emissions laws buys a Stillen kit is lack of research.

Actually I think that was the ultimate form of sarcasm I just never realized it! I'm with Trips on this one OP! Go ahead drop all that cash man! I can't wait to see the power u put down!!!

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

I don't think it has anything with being a believer. It has all to do with facts, design, and knowing what needs to be done in order to get the kit to make the power you are after.

For starters, install the OEM intake manifold back on the car, and get rid of all the water-air cooling that comes with the Stillen kit. Figure out a way to install an air-air front mount intercooler with a single inlet and dual outlet. Get a shop to fabricate some charge pipes that are 3" diameter, and have a good 2' section of this diameter tube before the TB's. Weld two MAF sensor housings on each 3" charge pipe, again before the TB's.

At that point, you will be ready to put it on the dyno, and see what that Vortech supercharger can make. With those mods, you should be able to hit your power goals.

Bottom line, you can't argue physics, and the proper way of going about this when it comes to making that kind of power. Also, remember that the head unit (supercharger) will rob about 40hp from your engine in order to make the boost you will need (12-13psi) to make that much power (500 at wheels)...AND the auto won't help.

So for you to make 500whp, the HP at the crank will probably have to be about 640. The blower is capable of 1150cfm, and this will be right on the limit of what it can do.

Not trying to be negative, just suggesting what you should do if you wish to do this properly, right out of the gate. That is what I would do if I had this kit, and wanted to push it.

I want you guys to realize that things here are very expensive (off the charts) because of customs tax. My car cost me 105,000 dollars. Just to get the standard Stillen/GTM kit here would be around 13,000 dollars. My friend who posted here 530 or so WHP paid these amounts for his kit (GTM). The short is that someone bought the Stillen kit and decided not to install it. He is willing to sell it to me for about 5500 dollars. That's cheap for here; very cheap. I know that the kit won't make the same HP as the GTM; although, I am not really sure why (not technical at all.) I just know how to drive. What would you guys do? Either no kit (can't afford GTM here), or get the Stillen?
I think I was misunderstood in my original post. My intentions now are to install the kit as is and with a proper tune get the max HP out of it. You must realize that because of the prices here car upgrades are a very grey area. Almost everyone in the states knows the basics such as how to change the oil or small repairs. Here it's the exact opposite. As to the guy that said that I didn't do research; well I did and my pockets aren't deep enough for the GTM (13000 dollars.) What I would like to know from the forum members is what realistic HP I'll be gaining with a custom tune and whether the Stillen kit is a good and reliable kit for what it is. If anyone says anything different then maybe I'll say "screw the kit" and I'll continue stock. The most important thing for me is reliability; meaning a daily driver with almost no hiccups.
Thanks

Chuck33079 · 11-18-2013, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamrock

I want you guys to realize that things here are very expensive (off the charts) because of customs tax. My car cost me 105,000 dollars. Just to get the standard Stillen/GTM kit here would be around 13,000 dollars. My friend who posted here 530 or so WHP paid these amounts for his kit (GTM). The short is that someone bought the Stillen kit and decided not to install it. He is willing to sell it to me for about 5500 dollars. That's cheap for here; very cheap. I know that the kit won't make the same HP as the GTM; although, I am not really sure why (not technical at all.) I just know how to drive. What would you guys do? Either no kit (can't afford GTM here), or get the Stillen?
I think I was misunderstood in my original post. My intentions now are to install the kit as is and with a proper tune get the max HP out of it. You must realize that because of the prices here car upgrades are a very grey area. Almost everyone in the states knows the basics such as how to change the oil or small repairs. Here it's the exact opposite. As to the guy that said that I didn't do research; well I did and my pockets aren't deep enough for the GTM (13000 dollars.) What I would like to know from the forum members is what realistic HP I'll be gaining with a custom tune and whether the Stillen kit is a good and reliable kit for what it is. If anyone says anything different then maybe I'll say "screw the kit" and I'll continue stock. The most important thing for me is reliability; meaning a daily driver with almost no hiccups.
Thanks

Looking at those costs, it all makes a lot more sense.

You can make it reliable. Get a custom tune, and go overboard cooling the oil, water and intake charge. Just don't expect massive power. It'll still be a lot more power than stock.

theDreamer · 11-18-2013, 11:27 AM

To give you some answers on what the kit can do check out this thread: Forced Induction Finished Builds

Depending on a lot of factors you should be able to get 400whp out of the system, some of the 440whp+ on the list are people who took the stillen kit and modified it to get any extra power out of the kit.

11-18-2013, 01:47 AM	#16 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Yup gonna need a bigger blower which is a problem because they dont fit with the stillen brackets. Good luck though you have a step uphill battle to fight because that kit has been dissected and rebuilt for so long here in the states its hard to see where you are going to find more power without throwing out half the kit. Dont forget about giving 928motorsports out of wisconsin a call for their billet wheel and high speed bearing upgrades if you are going to stick with the stillen head unit. Ported housing wouldnt be a bad idea, as well as doing something different with intake filter and coupler and not using the stillen manifold, intercooler, or piping, and DEFINITLEY not using their tune. elperuano, DEpointfive0, raymondo510 and 1 others like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 11-18-2013 at 01:50 AM.

11-18-2013, 05:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Now that i reread that, yup youre going to end up throwing most of it out. Thats why people buy the gtm kits i guess Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk elperuano likes this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

11-18-2013, 07:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 14	Hehe trust me it's not the head unit that's the problem it's the kits configuration That small water to air cooler is not going to get it You will be just blowing hot air into the motor and your computer will pull timing You would have to remake that kit to get big power out of it Larger cooling system maybe change over to fmic Fab. The intake pipping and move the maf sensors The v3 is a good head unit but like anything it's only as strong as it's weakest link I would have saved my sell tons of money if I did alittle more research before buying that kit elperuano likes this. __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out)

11-18-2013, 08:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	^ +100 The Stillen SC kit looks very good on their site, the description is well written and the numbers are very tempting. Someone who hasn't done his forum time and read the various reviews would never know what the real deal is. Google "370Z Supercharger" and see what comes up Chuck33079 likes this. __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

11-18-2013, 09:51 AM	#26 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Here we go again , I tried this too we all remember?? I made 457 WHP and 330 wtrq at 11psi. With a bunch of upgrades(stg 2 kit) ! Impeller, fuel, and custom frontmount heat exchanger , and MAF's , if you make more than that I'll be very supprised . As it was said already the headers Stillen has said won't help, an the blocks limit is around 13 PSI ( was told by my tuner for a SC) so I wouldn't suggest going that high on the motor or trans . Oh did I mention my motor BOOM'd also. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

11-18-2013, 07:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	Guys, no one has anything positive to say about the stillen setup? thanks Bart

11-18-2013, 07:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	So why do people buy it? Besides carb reasons. thanks Bart

11-18-2013, 08:53 AM	#25 (permalink)
JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I love my Stillen kit and it's a blast to drive but I was never trying to hit a number. I wanted to give the car more power and I am thrilled with it now that the Stillen tune is off of it. I don't think you will like the kit if your goal is 550whp because the kit isn't designed to get you there. I know others have been told different but Stillen told me 500 hp at the motor not the wheels.

11-18-2013, 11:27 AM	#30 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	To give you some answers on what the kit can do check out this thread: Forced Induction Finished Builds Depending on a lot of factors you should be able to get 400whp out of the system, some of the 440whp+ on the list are people who took the stillen kit and modified it to get any extra power out of the kit. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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