Stillen SC - put on your seat belts

SS_Firehawk · 11-18-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Finally useful info. Thanks firehawk.

thanks

Bart

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Living in similar temps as you, I spent about $4300 in cooling alone, not including methanol injection. This included the GTM radiator, shroud and fan upgrade, baffled oil pan, and two 19 row oil coolers with labor factored in.. a methonol injection kit is very optional. You can use it to cool your intake charge as well as tune for some extra power. It's not cheap though and the Stillen kit won't be pushing big numbers like the GTM kits.

Of all the things that is recommended, the radiator is your weak link since you have an oil cooler. We aren't saying you have to buy GTMs, (it's by far the best) but at a minimum, spending $600 for a CSF radiator. is a very good idea.

I have not had the chance to log my water temps, but even with two 19 row oil coolers, my temps have climbed up to 105℃ and that was just driving hard on the street or dyno.

I guess this wasn't

Some was rehashed because they were very good points from other members I wanted to be sure to emphasize. Don't take me seriously though, I'm just giving you a hard time. I should stop before I get charged for cyber bullying.

Shamrock · 11-18-2013, 07:39 PM

😊

thanks

Bart

ANMVQ · 11-18-2013, 07:50 PM

It's funny cause I didn't see anyone bashing the Stillen kit ether ?
I really liked mine . Just you said "put all the Sillen bashers and haters to rest" ?? No really hates on the Stillen kit , and it's been proving many times the kit is reliable and will make power it just won't the most, heck it WONT make 500 WHP! It won't! You will make over 400 WHP but to make anything close to 500 if that's what your shooting you'll have to change almost everything that came with the kit . I tried man tried I swapped a lot of things and feel short . But IMO it's a good kit just won't make the most WHP

JWillis72 · 11-18-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

It's funny cause I didn't see anyone bashing the Stillen kit ether ?
I really liked mine . Just you said "put all the Sillen bashers and haters to rest" ?? No really hates on the Stillen kit , and it's been proving many times the kit is reliable and will make power it just won't the most, heck it WONT make 500 WHP! It won't! You will make over 400 WHP but to make anything close to 500 if that's what your shooting you'll have to change almost everything that came with the kit . I tried man tried I swapped a lot of things and feel short . But IMO it's a good kit just won't make the most WHP

future370zzz · 11-18-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Since you have to replace all three dash gauges if you do one, what are you putting in the other two locations?

The shop doing the install will not be removing the dash to install it, I think they are going under it so they just need to remove one gauge. This saves on the cost of removing the whole dash. The installation cost for gauges are high because of the work involved.

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

Any names of the plx gauge? Where to get it?

thanks

Bart

Look up the PLX website, could order from them directly or search through google.

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Originally Posted by Shamrock

I bought the kiwi apparatus that connects to the "plug". Never used it. Will it show those things?

thanks

Bart

Yes, it is an ODBII connection guage. In addition, will be adding the sensors modules and taps for the AFR, BOOST, Trans TEMP readings to get accurate readings. I like the all in gauge feature.

future370zzz · 11-18-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

It's funny cause I didn't see anyone bashing the Stillen kit ether ?
I really liked mine . Just you said "put all the Sillen bashers and haters to rest" ?? No really hates on the Stillen kit , and it's been proving many times the kit is reliable and will make power it just won't the most, heck it WONT make 500 WHP! It won't! You will make over 400 WHP but to make anything close to 500 if that's what your shooting you'll have to change almost everything that came with the kit . I tried man tried I swapped a lot of things and feel short . But IMO it's a good kit just won't make the most WHP

Will be testing out the kit with 12PSI and 100 octane to see how close it gets.

Testing in 50F temps should help too. hehe

Still need to figure out how to lower underhood temps though in the summer. Ugh

Chuck33079 · 11-18-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by future370zzz

The shop doing the install will not be removing the dash to install it, I think they are going under it so they just need to remove one gauge. This saves on the cost of removing the whole dash. The installation cost for gauges are high because of the work involved.

The three gauges are one piece. If you replace one you replace them all. You cannot replace only one.

ANMVQ · 11-18-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by future370zzz

Will be testing out the kit with 12PSI and 100 octane to see how close it gets.

Testing in 50F temps should help too. hehe

Still need to figure out how to lower underhood temps though in the summer. Ugh

I'd you upgrade the fuel pump, or injectors?
At 12 psi your gonna run out of MAF voltage for sure .
You'll need upgrades ones . MR.Squzze ran out

an I changed mine out

1slow370 · 11-18-2013, 08:32 PM

Yeah especially on a supercharger boost isn't too important, the pulley isn't suddenly gonna get smaller and blow the motor, egt's aren't that important on a supercharged car either, they are useful but not important. oil pressure would definitely be a good one to have.

future370zzz · 11-18-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The three gauges are one piece. If you replace one you replace them all. You cannot replace only one.

Hmm, there was another 370Z with just one PLX gauge installed in the clock location when I visited the shop. Don't know how they did it.

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

I'd you upgrade the fuel pump, or injectors?
At 12 psi your gonna run out of MAF voltage for sure .
You'll need upgrades ones . MR.Squzze ran out

an I changed mine out

Yeah, upgrading to 340 pump and 950cc injectors. May need to upgrade MAF sensors also. Uprev right? More $$$$ ugh

7AT_Z · 11-18-2013, 10:53 PM

I'm very much a non believer after having a friend building his motor and having the Stillen kit only make 400rwhp with a 9lb pulley on 100 oct lol. Sooooo good luck!

1087 · 11-18-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 7AT_Z

I'm very much a non believer after having a friend building his motor and having the Stillen kit only make 400rwhp with a 9lb pulley on 100 oct lol. Sooooo good luck!

400 RWHP with a built motor , 9lb pulley and 100 oct?
Are you serious?

7AT_Z · 11-18-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1087

400 RWHP with a built motor , 9lb pulley and 100 oct?
Are you serious?

Dead serious. Call Sebastian at specialty Z. He tuned it. Motor had carillo rods and pistons, custom jwt cams, etc... $20k thrown down the drain. Everything was properly installed and tuned. That kit is extremely limited in making any sort of power. Its TERRIBLE lol. VQ's are meant to be TT'ed not supercharged haha

7AT_Z · 11-18-2013, 11:37 PM

It was an 08 HR 350z. same motor, same s/c kit as a 370 still.

1087 · 11-18-2013, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 7AT_Z

Dead serious. Call Sebastian at specialty Z. He tuned it. Motor had carillo rods and pistons, custom jwt cams, etc... $20k thrown down the drain. Everything was properly installed and tuned. That kit is extremely limited in making any sort of power. Its TERRIBLE lol. VQ's are meant to be TT'ed not supercharged haha

Well... I beg to disagree with your statement.
My bone stock motor 370Z, with a Stillen SC kit, cat back exhaust and tuning does 453/337@ the wheels.
It's step by step well documented in DSPORT magazine.

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ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	It's funny cause I didn't see anyone bashing the Stillen kit ether ? I really liked mine . Just you said "put all the Sillen bashers and haters to rest" ?? No really hates on the Stillen kit , and it's been proving many times the kit is reliable and will make power it just won't the most, heck it WONT make 500 WHP! It won't! You will make over 400 WHP but to make anything close to 500 if that's what your shooting you'll have to change almost everything that came with the kit . I tried man tried I swapped a lot of things and feel short . But IMO it's a good kit just won't make the most WHP JWillis72 likes this. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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Shamrock Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Israel Posts: 215 Drives: 370z 2011 AT White Rep Power: 13	😊 thanks Bart

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