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Sh0velMan 10-30-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2546957)
I got a question for you Sh0vel. I see you have stance coilovers, are you running camber arms with those? I just recently bought an SPC rear camber kit in preperation for getting my Stance's installed. I'm just making sure I went the right route.

I have front upper arms, I have stock arms in the rear. I run more camber than you would want to run on the street, most likely. Makes the tires wear weird.

The coilovers have almost nothing to do with alignment though. The need for aftermarket arms and whatnot is based purely on how low you want to go. The Stance units are capable of basically stock ride height (at least on my car, yours will be substantially heavier, so your mileage may vary), making the stock adjustments satisfactory (for now). I definitely sit a bit lower than stock, but I'm not slammed by any stretch.

So, in summary: It'll depend on how low you want to go as to whether or not you need aftermarket arms.

Voice59 10-30-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2546982)
I've thought about heading out to the Texas Mile, but it seems like every year somebody wads a car up out there. I'd love to know how fast the car will go if you can just bury the throttle and not worry about cops or road conditions.

Agreed. So it looks like I'm gonna go with the CSF Radiator and those 14" fans. And I think that should be just about all the supporting mods I need for the SC. Aside from vented liners, which I imagine can be done manually and not need be purchased.

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2546985)
So, in summary: It'll depend on how low you want to go as to whether or not you need aftermarket arms.

Maybe. I was just barely out of spec, and I was only running Eibachs. I went ahead and bought front and rear arms, and rear toe bolts. These tires cost too much to burn them up by being out of spec.

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2546988)
Aside from vented liners, which I imagine can be done manually and not need be purchased.

Yeah, poking a bunch of holes in the fender liner shoud be a pretty simple DIY.

Voice59 10-30-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2546985)
I have front upper arms, I have stock arms in the rear. I run more camber than you would want to run on the street, most likely. Makes the tires wear weird.

The coilovers have almost nothing to do with alignment though. The need for aftermarket arms and whatnot is based purely on how low you want to go. The Stance units are capable of basically stock ride height (at least on my car, yours will be substantially heavier, so your mileage may vary), making the stock adjustments satisfactory (for now). I definitely sit a bit lower than stock, but I'm not slammed by any stretch.

So, in summary: It'll depend on how low you want to go as to whether or not you need aftermarket arms.

I'm looking at eliminating wheel gap. Maybe not completely, but definitely not where I'm at right now. Just doesn't look good.

Voice59 10-30-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2546262)
the CSF with fan is still much, much cheaper than the GTM.

I'm weighing it out. Thicker radiator means better cooling..correct? So 30mm is better than 14. So if the CSF radiator is 30mm plus a fan that'd be the "ideal" set up. What if I got GTM's 70mm? Would that be good enough to not get the fan? I'm just looking at options. In my mind less moving parts is less chance for error (of any kind). Unless even with that size of a radiator (not tracking the car) it'd be pointless without the fans.

Thoughts?

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2548080)
I'm weighing it out. Thicker radiator means better cooling..correct? So 30mm is better than 14. So if the CSF radiator is 30mm plus a fan that'd be the "ideal" set up. What if I got GTM's 70mm? Would that be good enough to not get the fan? I'm just looking at options. In my mind less moving parts is less chance for error (of any kind). Unless even with that size of a radiator (not tracking the car) it'd be pointless without the fans.

Thoughts?

From my understanding, the GTM radiator doesn't work with the stock fans.

Tigger 10-30-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2548080)
I'm weighing it out. Thicker radiator means better cooling..correct? So 30mm is better than 14. So if the CSF radiator is 30mm plus a fan that'd be the "ideal" set up. What if I got GTM's 70mm? Would that be good enough to not get the fan? I'm just looking at options. In my mind less moving parts is less chance for error (of any kind). Unless even with that size of a radiator (not tracking the car) it'd be pointless without the fans.

Thoughts?

If I were going FI right now I would personally do the biggest radiator I could fit. And are you talking about ditching a radiator fan altogether in exchange for a bigger radiator? I hope not! lol. But if you are talking about having an extra smaller fan, then yes, I'd still go for it. They don't just quit working like that. Like anything that is FI in the aftermarket, you always have to pay more attention to the car and watch for things that are failing on a regular basis.

Chuck33079 10-30-2013 07:04 PM

If I had it to do again, I'd get the upgraded fans at the same time I did the radiator. I'd most likely still go with CSF.

Voice59 10-30-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2548114)
If I had it to do again, I'd get the upgraded fans at the same time I did the radiator. I'd most likely still go with CSF.

Yeah, that's the route I'm taking.

SPOHN 10-30-2013 07:31 PM

CSF is more than enough. Mine has always worked great. If it did need more assistance then I will go to the GTM fan and shroud upgrade.

SS_Firehawk 10-30-2013 07:56 PM

Stock fans work with the GTM radiator, but you need a new shroud.

Voice59 03-29-2014 07:41 AM

Well, finally got the SC kit in. It's missing a couple parts, which should be sent later. I'm on deployment so hopefully my girlfriend will handle the installation side of it.

steveg78 04-02-2014 01:38 AM

5 months to get the kit?

COSMO 04-02-2014 02:29 AM

And probably another 5 months to get the others parts... Good luck..


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