How many went FI and blew a motor?

Baer383 · 10-04-2013, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

i said as far as i know

And as far as I know for a fact your wrong.

^ Sarcasm if some of you didn't now

DIGItonium · 10-04-2013, 02:13 AM

Last thing on my mind.

I had the kit installed at 22k miles. Currently north of 55k miles right now. It still needs a tune haha, but I'd rather wait. As of last week, the car is not a daily driver anymore.

1slow370 · 10-04-2013, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

And as far as I know for a fact your wrong.

What is "as far as i know for a fact"? that's like saying "hey I may be wrong, but I believe I definitely am alive". lol

I like it it's going in the sig

Mr&Mrs · 10-04-2013, 02:24 AM

Just from the very few that have popped I personally will not go over 500WHP on the stock block. I also drive it like I paid for it so it doesn't see many redline runs. I have to spend to much money on other stuff right now that if I blew mine up it may be a while before it is back on road.

theDreamer · 10-04-2013, 08:15 AM

Remember guys, even with a good list of builds what is known is probably 10-25% of actual boosted 370z on the road. I would say for every failure we see, be it stillen or GTM kit or other, there is 2 more behind it somewhere else.

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-04-2013, 10:13 AM

From what I remember in no specific order-

1. Improper Installation blew one motor via a damage fuel line causing a lean condition.

2. A second hand kit pulled from a salvaged car lost oil and damaged the turbine and engine.

3. Most likely a bad tune but yet to be determined caused the motor to be damaged.

4. High rev motor damaged exact cause unknown.

I'm sure there are a few more I don't remember.
Overall blown FI motor are from installation issues then anything else. The majority of people here have the good sense of doing things right.

We are not Honda Civic drivers who buy a FI kit off ebay and install it overnight in our parents garage only to have it blow up in your face the next day trying to be a drift king.

Baer383 · 10-04-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

What is "as far as i know for a fact"? that's like saying "hey I may be wrong, but I believe I definitely am alive". lol

I like it it's going in the sig

Here you go another spoon fed member

Forged Perfomance and my G37 TT build

How many went FI and blew a motor?

jcosta79 · 10-04-2013, 10:35 AM

Keeping an FI engine safe boils down to the tuning. As long as you keep detonation out of the engine, you should be okay. Do your research and find a good, smart tuner. (There's not that many of them out there)

Diabel · 10-04-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Go to Stillen Website check the horse power that your car will make with their kit (500 BHP which is around 400ish WHP)

That "safe" 500whp from GTM TT kit - how many would it be in BHP ?

Baer383 · 10-04-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Diabel

That "safe" 500whp from GTM TT kit - how many would it be in BHP ?

WHP is measured at the rear wheel.

Just go by WHP and you will be better off.

Infidel · 10-04-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Diabel

That "safe" 500whp from GTM TT kit - how many would it be in BHP ?

Typical loss from BHP to WHP is 15%-18% I believe.

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-04-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

Typical loss from BHP to WHP is 15%-18% I believe.

Typically a stock Nismo gets ~290 WHP but is listed as 350 BHP.
83% makes it to the wheels. Or 17% is lost.

So lets say you modded it to output 500 WHP, working backwards is 602 BHP. Which is a hell of a lot of power for a production engine.

For perspective, some other production cars '09 and prior with around that power:
2005 Pagani Zonda F — 594 hp
2009 Bentley Continental Flying Spur Speed — 600 hp
2009 Bentley Continental GT Speed — 600
2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 — 600 hp
1993 Bugatti EB110 Supersport — 603 hp
2006 Maybach 57S and 62S — 604
2005 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG — 604 hp
2006 Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG — 604 hp
2005 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG — 604 hp
2004 Porsche Carrera GT — 605 hp
2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano — 611 hp

Chuck33079 · 10-04-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

So lets say you modded it to output 500 WHP, working backwards is 602 BHP. Which is a hell of a lot of power for a production engine.

162 hp/liter is massive.

jcosta79 · 10-04-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

162 hp/liter is massive.

Not for a forced-induction engine. The new Porsche 918 has a N/A V8 that gets 130+ BHP/Liter.

Chuck33079 · 10-04-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

Not for a forced-induction engine. The new insanely expensive Porsche 918 has a N/A V8 that gets 130+ BHP/Liter.

Well, yeah. If I could afford a 918 I wouldn't be here. Maybe I should qualify my posts a little bit.

10-04-2013, 02:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Last thing on my mind. I had the kit installed at 22k miles. Currently north of 55k miles right now. It still needs a tune haha, but I'd rather wait. As of last week, the car is not a daily driver anymore. __________________

10-04-2013, 02:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31940	Just from the very few that have popped I personally will not go over 500WHP on the stock block. I also drive it like I paid for it so it doesn't see many redline runs. I have to spend to much money on other stuff right now that if I blew mine up it may be a while before it is back on road. DIGItonium, 370Zsteve, dirTy_shoeZ and 1 others like this. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

10-04-2013, 08:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Remember guys, even with a good list of builds what is known is probably 10-25% of actual boosted 370z on the road. I would say for every failure we see, be it stillen or GTM kit or other, there is 2 more behind it somewhere else. Streetlife, 370Zsteve, G37sHKS and 4 others like this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-04-2013, 10:13 AM	#21 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,401 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	From what I remember in no specific order- 1. Improper Installation blew one motor via a damage fuel line causing a lean condition. 2. A second hand kit pulled from a salvaged car lost oil and damaged the turbine and engine. 3. Most likely a bad tune but yet to be determined caused the motor to be damaged. 4. High rev motor damaged exact cause unknown. I'm sure there are a few more I don't remember. Overall blown FI motor are from installation issues then anything else. The majority of people here have the good sense of doing things right. We are not Honda Civic drivers who buy a FI kit off ebay and install it overnight in our parents garage only to have it blow up in your face the next day trying to be a drift king. FireDan50 and luigi90210 like this.

10-04-2013, 10:35 AM	#23 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 15	Keeping an FI engine safe boils down to the tuning. As long as you keep detonation out of the engine, you should be okay. Do your research and find a good, smart tuner. (There's not that many of them out there) 370Zsteve and dirTy_shoeZ like this. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

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