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Baer383 09-12-2013 08:47 PM

I don't have any idle issues, afr 14.3-14.9 idle speed 800-825

Good luck with your problem.

DIGItonium 09-12-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2484184)
Sorry man LOL Digi. :tiphat:

I tried, sent logs, and I never heard back from them. I think I stopped getting any support from GTM since the Hallman Pro RX installation at the dealer.

My car was with Baker for over a month, and I was expecting for a tune. All I got was the out of box tune when I picked up the car. I don't think they had time to get it dyno tuned.

So I'm assuming the initial white smoke I see once in awhile when daily driving is excess fuel since the test pipe installation? :ugh2:

The nearest tuner is Modifed by KC (MKC). Next would be some place in Dallas like JoTech. [shrugs]

ANMVQ 09-13-2013 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2485242)
I tried, sent logs, and I never heard back from them. I think I stopped getting any support from GTM since the Hallman Pro RX installation at the dealer.

My car was with Baker for over a month, and I was expecting for a tune. All I got was the out of box tune when I picked up the car. I don't think they had time to get it dyno tuned.

So I'm assuming the initial white smoke I see once in awhile when daily driving is excess fuel since the test pipe installation? :ugh2:

The nearest tuner is Modifed by KC (MKC). Next would be some place in Dallas like JoTech. [shrugs]


Well sorry about the non support from GTM( not suprised) Just my .02 tho..

But I would really take it to ge tuned and fix that issue, they may be other things going on. You do not want to end up like I did. An my tuner was really adamint about me getting to him when I was having the start up issues. Washing the cylinders is a serious concern. White smoke anytime is not good,

DIGItonium 09-13-2013 08:31 AM

The white smoke doesn't happen often, and it's usually when I get moving after a cold start. Some reading points out to to condensation. Other than that, my oil and water reservoir is good. Next oil change is coming up next week so I'll see if there's any fuel smell in the oil. I've only had the test pipes installed for about 3 months.

I had the hot start issue well before the MBC installation, and I pressed on trying to get updates from GTM. No response. It has been 34k miles since the installation, and I dealt with this almost everyday. Starting to feel the rough idle lately as well, so I might do a compression test the next time the spark plugs get pulled. So I'll try to do some sanity checks before getting it tuned since the goal of switching to a 3" exhaust setup is a bit distant.

Chuck33079 09-13-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2485735)
The white smoke doesn't happen often, and it's usually when I get moving after a cold start. Some reading points out to to condensation.

That's most likely the issue.

John@Z1 09-13-2013 09:04 AM

This looks like a simple fix. The Stillen kit is a little harder to get to idle correctly but it's not that hard to do. PM if your tuner doesn't figure it out.

theDreamer 09-13-2013 10:56 AM

Just dropped my Z off, will see the results if they can fix it today. :tup:

hyunsoo1803 09-13-2013 01:00 PM

Thanks for the responses guys ! I really appreciated.

I will keep you guys posted once I go see my tuner next week :)

DIGItonium 09-13-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2486176)
Just dropped my Z off, will see the results if they can fix it today. :tup:

Guess I'll have to make a 10 hour trip to visit you guys again eh? The EX is totally out of the picture, so I'm all for some responsible drinking in Htown while getting my car tuned haahah.

future370zzz 09-13-2013 02:43 PM

Hope you get your issues resolved. I will need to make sure my tuner works out the hot/cold idle and start issues before I pick up the car. Let's see how he does with 850cc injectors.

My Sentra has hot start issues, turns out its a faulty fuel pressure regulator. After you car warms up and then starts to cool, pressure drops and you have to crank it, stop and re-crank to start it up. Works every time but it's annoying.

Let us know when it gets fixed.

hyunsoo1803 09-17-2013 06:23 PM

The car now has 70,000KM and that Stillen Sc kit may be stressing the engine with old spark plugs. My car is going to for a tune check up sometime this week.

I have some questions for experts in this community :)

1. Spark Plugs: What system, or brand do you guys use for FI application? Anything one step colder than OEM ones?

2. What's the a/f ratio range when the idle is unstable. For me, it was 13.5-15.2 surging up and down while RPM needle struggled to keep the car running. When stable idle, it usually sits at 14.4-14.7

3. Do you think SRM affects the idle RPM speed? I remember my tuner saying he set the RPM to 800 to 850 ish but I sometimes see stable 700-750 :/

VERY CONFUSED

Baer383 09-17-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hyunsoo1803 (Post 2492513)
The car now has 70,000KM and that Stillen Sc kit may be stressing the engine with old spark plugs. My car is going to for a tune check up sometime this week.

I have some questions for experts in this community :)

1. Spark Plugs: What system, or brand do you guys use for FI application? Anything one step colder than OEM ones?

2. What's the a/f ratio range when the idle is unstable. For me, it was 13.5-15.2 surging up and down while RPM needle struggled to keep the car running. When stable idle, it usually sits at 14.4-14.7

3. Do you think SRM affects the idle RPM speed? I remember my tuner saying he set the RPM to 800 to 850 ish but I sometimes see stable 700-750 :/

VERY CONFUSED


Plugs one step colder,GTR plugs work well
AFR should be 14.3-14.9 thats what mine is
Idle speed on mine is 800 b/c it is a 6sp

The idle surging up and down is b/c your tuner must tune the MAF @ idle instead of using the fuel comp table.

hyunsoo1803 09-17-2013 09:13 PM

Thanks for quick response !

My car thought it would be funny to throw a random engine light :(

Baer383 09-17-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hyunsoo1803 (Post 2492750)
Thanks for quick response !

My car thought it would be funny to throw a random engine light :(

I check to see what code it is and if it is BS I shut it off with Uprev.:tup:

hyunsoo1803 09-17-2013 09:38 PM

Dont have the reader here with me it idles high. 1000-1050.

Heading down to a shop first thing in the morning


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