GTM Stage 1.5 supercharger build

theDreamer · 09-19-2013, 08:47 AM

For some info on VVEL:

Baer383 · 09-19-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pokeyl

NO more math just results
This is at 7500 RPM with a 146mm crank (stock) pulley.

Thanks!!!

SS_Firehawk · 09-19-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx

my buddy sent me this today:

"Steveo, the only way to find out whether to run the cats or not is on a chassis dyno. you need to try it both ways. A lot of cam grinders run big over lap on boosted cars. For example on a vw, most all of the good performance cam grinders use 108 degree lobe centers, but with turbos they run an asymmetrical grind and 110 degree lobe centers. Some chevy cam grinders, like Crane use 114 degree lobe centers for supercharged motors, then guys like comp cams...they use 110 degree lobe centers, so with out a dyno it’s any body's guess. Tim"

Does anyone have info on our cams that I can send him? Maybe a link to some hard info about our cams, how vvel works exactly, etc? He's like a father to me, and knows his stuff and wants to help as much as he can. He's built some pretty amazing motors.

I'm not running stock cats, but I have one in my MD Y pipe and a more restrictive exhaust compared to an X or H design. It's a 200cell 3". I also have a resonator too. Ill be posting more results when I get her home and strapped in.

snowsurfdirtx · 09-22-2013, 10:33 PM

Sounds good man. I bet that you need that little bit with your PPE's. In for results!

snowsurfdirtx · 09-23-2013, 08:22 AM

Hey guys,

Can I use a thermostatic sandwich plate from an old oil cooler setup here or do I need GTM's inline thermostat due to the way the filter is relocated? (it seems insanely expensive for the GTM line kit since I think it's just a Mocal thermostat)

Baer383 · 09-23-2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx

Hey guys,

Can I use a thermostatic sandwich plate from an old oil cooler setup here or do I need GTM's inline thermostat due to the way the filter is relocated? (it seems insanely expensive for the GTM line kit since I think it's just a Mocal thermostat)

You can but Sam has all the lines and everything pre made.

Z eliminator · 09-23-2013, 08:50 AM

Great info on the SC. so what happens when you and meth in the intercoller and injected into all six intake ports. The charge cools down ?
how will the numbers change /

thanks

Z

SS_Firehawk · 09-23-2013, 09:39 AM

I have direct port meth injection installed. It only sprays when I start boosting pretty hard (over 5500rpm) I'm really using it to cool the IAT's. LTH's really warm things up, especially with all the other things stuffed under the hood. I'm sure it's good for 20-40whp, but honestly, the damn car is so flipping fast, I won't be able to tell if it did.

snowsurfdirtx · 09-23-2013, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383

You can but Sam has all the lines and everything pre made.

Yeah, they quoted me for the lines + inline thermostat.. 455. Seemed steep for just some lines, fittings and a mocal thermostat. Figured.. use the sandwich plate and their line kit w/o thermostat, if I can, but I'm not sure how the line setup is to begin with. Looks like I'd have to cap some fittings? Can't tell. Might just give up and order it all thru gtm.

Baer383 · 09-23-2013, 03:33 PM

Look thru my albums I may have some pics there,if not pm me and I may have some on my lap top.

SPOHN · 09-23-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

Look thru my albums I may have some pics there,if not pm me and I may have some on my lap top.

All I see is midget porn

pokeyl · 09-24-2013, 07:54 PM

My oil cooler solution, this is the long filter. I will be going back to the standard hight one! It will not stick out below the frame.

fuct · 09-25-2013, 09:47 AM

is the zip tie doing anything in the pic above? are you worried the hose will pull off right there?

SPOHN · 09-25-2013, 11:52 AM

Socket less fittings, me no trust.

snowsurfdirtx · 09-25-2013, 01:21 PM

I agree SPOHN. Doesn't oil press hit almost 100lbs on cold startup? I'd throw some clamps on there. Is that filter relocated or just has a sandwich plate on there?

Baer, I'll check em out today man and I'll let ya know

09-19-2013, 08:47 AM	#91 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	For some info on VVEL: G37sHKS and JckHmr like this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

09-22-2013, 10:33 PM	#94 (permalink)
snowsurfdirtx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WA Posts: 285 Drives: Too Fast Rep Power: 13	Sounds good man. I bet that you need that little bit with your PPE's. In for results! __________________ 11 Red Touring/Sport/Nav, 472/382wtq@7psi.. GTM/Tomei/Volk/Motordyne/Z1/JLAudio/Aeroforce/etc.. 95 S14 in progress, L33 v8.. T7575 turbo/SPL/MCA Suspension/Personal/Works Bell/OZ/etc..

09-23-2013, 08:22 AM	#95 (permalink)
snowsurfdirtx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WA Posts: 285 Drives: Too Fast Rep Power: 13	Hey guys, Can I use a thermostatic sandwich plate from an old oil cooler setup here or do I need GTM's inline thermostat due to the way the filter is relocated? (it seems insanely expensive for the GTM line kit since I think it's just a Mocal thermostat) __________________ 11 Red Touring/Sport/Nav, 472/382wtq@7psi.. GTM/Tomei/Volk/Motordyne/Z1/JLAudio/Aeroforce/etc.. 95 S14 in progress, L33 v8.. T7575 turbo/SPL/MCA Suspension/Personal/Works Bell/OZ/etc..

09-23-2013, 08:50 AM	#97 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	Great info on the SC. so what happens when you and meth in the intercoller and injected into all six intake ports. The charge cools down ? how will the numbers change / thanks Z __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

09-23-2013, 09:39 AM	#98 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	I have direct port meth injection installed. It only sprays when I start boosting pretty hard (over 5500rpm) I'm really using it to cool the IAT's. LTH's really warm things up, especially with all the other things stuffed under the hood. I'm sure it's good for 20-40whp, but honestly, the damn car is so flipping fast, I won't be able to tell if it did. SPOHN and VSS370z like this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

09-23-2013, 03:33 PM	#100 (permalink)
Baer383 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 4,293 Drives: My foot up your azz Rep Power: 30	Look thru my albums I may have some pics there,if not pm me and I may have some on my lap top. __________________ 2013 ZL1 754 rwhp 747 rwtq

09-24-2013, 07:54 PM	#102 (permalink)
pokeyl Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: DFS Posts: 900 Drives: ??? Rep Power: 55	My oil cooler solution, this is the long filter. I will be going back to the standard hight one! It will not stick out below the frame. __________________ It's not my fault I'm old, I was born a very long time ago!

09-25-2013, 09:47 AM	#103 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	is the zip tie doing anything in the pic above? are you worried the hose will pull off right there?

09-25-2013, 11:52 AM	#104 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Socket less fittings, me no trust. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________

09-25-2013, 01:21 PM	#105 (permalink)
snowsurfdirtx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WA Posts: 285 Drives: Too Fast Rep Power: 13	I agree SPOHN. Doesn't oil press hit almost 100lbs on cold startup? I'd throw some clamps on there. Is that filter relocated or just has a sandwich plate on there? Baer, I'll check em out today man and I'll let ya know __________________ 11 Red Touring/Sport/Nav, 472/382wtq@7psi.. GTM/Tomei/Volk/Motordyne/Z1/JLAudio/Aeroforce/etc.. 95 S14 in progress, L33 v8.. T7575 turbo/SPL/MCA Suspension/Personal/Works Bell/OZ/etc..

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