OEM Hood v Seibon TS Testing

Mr.Squeeze · 09-05-2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

First log done last week, just got around to editing it.
Also, the fat wavy line on the oil temp is because my temps have been 'bouncing' around lately. I originally thought it was the gauge going bad but the OBD2 sensor and uprev both read it this way. I have added a red line above it to show the actual change in oil temp in a more usable readout.

Details
First graph:
-Morning cold start, around 6:00AM
-About a 20 mile drive with little to no traffic, almost all freeway, speed kept above 70MPH
-Ambient temps were between 80-86 degrees
-The point where the rad fans kick on is when I was exiting off a freeway, sat in a right turn lane for 2-3 minutes and then got back onto another freeway

Peak numbers:
-Engine oil 192°F
-Fuel temp 95°F
-Intake temp 95°F
-Coolant temp 210°F

Engine off numbers:
-Engine oil 190°F
-Fuel temp 95°F
-Intake temp 90°F
-Coolant temp 203°F

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Second graph:
-This is after a 10 minute idle with the engine shut off from the above drive
-Followed by a short 3-4 minute drive to see how the engine will cool off
-Speed kept under 30mph

Engine on numbers:
-Engine oil 172°F
-Fuel temp 97°F
-Intake temp 120°
-Coolant temp 208°

Lowest numbers:
-Engine oil 160°F
-Fuel temp 97°F
-Intake temp 118°F
-Coolant temp 203°F

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This is some good data right here ,and the main reason why I got rid of my CSF radiator. Driving around and having almost 210 degree coolant temp is hot one pull and your over 220 easy.

theDreamer · 09-05-2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

This is some good data right here ,and the main reason why I got rid of my CSF radiator. Driving around and having almost 210 degree coolant temp is hot one pull and your over 220 easy.

What radiator have you gone with now?
I can agree, even with the CSF radiator I can hit 220, but I am also on stock fan settings still but that is mostly for post hard driving to help cool down. After my hood upgrade, if it works, my next cooling upgrade is going to be the SPAL fans by GTM to hopefully just drop in and pull more air.

theDreamer · 09-05-2013, 08:21 AM

Also, for an update, I have hit a wall with excel. I am acquiring 100k plus data points and Excel 2007 only allows for a graph with 30-40k data points. Working on my office to order a licence for office 2013 so I can upgrade, as with Excel 2013 my only limit is memory.

Mr.Squeeze · 09-05-2013, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

What radiator have you gone with now?
I can agree, even with the CSF radiator I can hit 220, but I am also on stock fan settings still but that is mostly for post hard driving to help cool down. After my hood upgrade, if it works, my next cooling upgrade is going to be the SPAL fans by GTM to hopefully just drop in and pull more air.

I just swapped it for the Mishimoto radiator 2 days ago so far I am loving the results. So far I haven't had any 85 degree days to compare it in the same temps I was having high coolant temp issues. I will say this much testing it in the same type of conditions I have the last two days has given much lower temps.

I had my tuner Vince change my fan settings for them to come on sooner and it help very little with the CSF radiator.

Sh0velMan · 09-05-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

I just swapped it for the Mishimoto radiator 2 days ago so far I am loving the results. So far I haven't had any 85 degree days to compare it in the same temps I was having high coolant temp issues. I will say this much testing it in the same type of conditions I have the last two days has given much lower temps.

I had my tuner Vince change my fan settings for them to come on sooner and it help very little with the CSF radiator.

Any good pics of the Mishimoto? Especially with comparison to the CSF?

Just curious, I find your results very interesting!

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 09:29 AM

How did the Mishimoto radiator look? The one I bought from them years ago was a mess. It held water, but the welds were crap and it barely fit. Have they improved?

GaleForce · 09-05-2013, 09:39 AM

There is a detailed DIY with the mishimoto rad somewhere on this forum. Has good pictures too. I'll try to find it and share the link.

GaleForce · 09-05-2013, 09:40 AM

Found it, thanks to Google

(the forum search sucks donkey balls)

NEW 370Z Mishimoto Radiator Install

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 09:45 AM

I was hoping for something a little clearer. The pics are nice, but you can't really tell what the welds look like, and that was a problem when I had a Mishimoto on another car.

GaleForce · 09-05-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I was hoping for something a little clearer. The pics are nice, but you can't really tell what the welds look like, and that was a problem when I had a Mishimoto on another car.

This any better?

Nissan 370Z Performance Aluminum Radiator, 2009+, by Mishimoto

Chuck33079 · 09-05-2013, 09:51 AM

Better, but I'd hope the pics on their own website would be good.

Their problems seem to be hit or miss, leading me to believe their quality control is still as good as it's always been. That's why I wanted to hear back from Mr. Squeeze, since he doesn't **** around with his car.

GaleForce · 09-05-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Better, but I'd hope the pics on their own website would be good.

Their problems seem to be hit or miss, leading me to believe their quality control is still as good as it's always been. That's why I wanted to hear back from Mr. Squeeze, since he doesn't **** around with his car.

^^^ Truth!

roplusbee · 09-05-2013, 05:02 PM

Wait, what? I have a hard time believing that Mishimoto has developed anything better than "on-par" with CSF. We need a good 'ol Texas car to report, where we have frequent 100 degree days.

Mr.Squeeze · 09-06-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

How did the Mishimoto radiator look? The one I bought from them years ago was a mess. It held water, but the welds were crap and it barely fit. Have they improved?

It didn't look bad at all here are a few crappy cell phone pictures I took.

theDreamer · 09-06-2013, 11:31 AM

It looks like the Mis is overall deeper versus the CSF.

09-05-2013, 08:21 AM	#48 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Also, for an update, I have hit a wall with excel. I am acquiring 100k plus data points and Excel 2007 only allows for a graph with 30-40k data points. Working on my office to order a licence for office 2013 so I can upgrade, as with Excel 2013 my only limit is memory. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

09-05-2013, 09:29 AM	#51 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	How did the Mishimoto radiator look? The one I bought from them years ago was a mess. It held water, but the welds were crap and it barely fit. Have they improved? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 09:39 AM	#52 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	There is a detailed DIY with the mishimoto rad somewhere on this forum. Has good pictures too. I'll try to find it and share the link. __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

09-05-2013, 09:40 AM	#53 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	Found it, thanks to Google (the forum search sucks donkey balls) NEW 370Z Mishimoto Radiator Install __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

09-05-2013, 09:45 AM	#54 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I was hoping for something a little clearer. The pics are nice, but you can't really tell what the welds look like, and that was a problem when I had a Mishimoto on another car. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 09:51 AM	#56 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Better, but I'd hope the pics on their own website would be good. Their problems seem to be hit or miss, leading me to believe their quality control is still as good as it's always been. That's why I wanted to hear back from Mr. Squeeze, since he doesn't **** around with his car. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-05-2013, 05:02 PM	#58 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	Wait, what? I have a hard time believing that Mishimoto has developed anything better than "on-par" with CSF. We need a good 'ol Texas car to report, where we have frequent 100 degree days. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

09-06-2013, 11:31 AM	#60 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	It looks like the Mis is overall deeper versus the CSF. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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