FI vs New car

Hermitns · 05-29-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bldg636

Question for all those boosted Z's out there..... I know that sometime in the near future(2 yrs or so) I'm going to be purchasing a GTR. I'm at a crossroads as to whether it is worth it to go FI(tt) on my Z now when I'm going to be trading it in within a relatively short timeframe. I'm looking at the fact that, even with the cost effective option I'm looking at spending at least 8k, most of which I will not get back at trade in or at resale if I remove the system and sell it separately. I understand that, in any case, a TT system is not "practical" by most standards anyway, but I'd like to get some opinions from some fellow motorheads out there, especially those who are boosted. Thanks in advance guys.

IF you KNOW you're going GTR, forget boosting the Z. Put that cash in the godzilla till. look at the used Z classified ads here and see how much is lost (and most guys don't list the install/tune cost as well as time off work). Get a nice (used) exhaust, CAI and/or wheels and mark the GTR day on your calendar

bldg636 · 05-30-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've never driven a GTR. It doesn't really appeal to me. It's insanely capable, but it doesn't reach me on an emotional level, and that's a requirement for the price tag and astronomical cost of ownership. That being said, my boosted Z is exactly what I wanted. There's some downsides though. I'd expect it to cause a major drop in your resale value, especially if you trade it in. Mods generally count against you when you sell. If you're not planning on owning the car long term, don't do something so drastic as boosting the Z.

This response really struck a chord with me . . . Although the GTR is a ridiculously nice car, i'm not a huge fan of the lines and, other than my previous knowledge of its supercar capability, it doesn't have that "WOW" factor when i look at it. I really enjoy the lines of my Z and I like the idea of building up a car to the way i want it. So, in summary, i think i'm going to boost the Z and make it into what i want, and we'll see what the future holds for my next car. Maybe i'll get a GTR down the road or maybe the new NSX if it ever comes out. Either way, i think i'll be happy with a crazy fast Z. Thanks again guys for the feedback.

sfearl1 · 05-30-2013, 03:42 PM

dimsler · 07-07-2013, 12:50 PM

I've barked up this tree for the last 2 years. I've learned two
things, both are money pits if you plan to mod them.

But the Z is dirt cheap in comparison.

In the end, **** happens, and if it does you'll be much happier in a Z, heres how I've done my math.

Blow your trans in your Z? $1500 form a wreckers, $7k for a built one, $12k for a quafi sequential dogbox.

Blow you trans in a GTR? $12k for a rebuild, $25k for a replacement if you blow the housing. Junkyard ones are hard to come by.

Blow your VQ37VHR? $2500 from a wreckers, $10k for a built 4.5.

Blow your VR38DETT? $15k from a wreckers, and built ones you won't really need unless you're joining the 1k hp club.

Same applies to suspension and brakes.

Unless you need AWD, the Z is lighter and cheaper in the long term.

mfeinst · 07-10-2013, 07:08 AM

I'm in a good position to answer this. Between me and the rest of my household, our stable includes my Z, a GT-R, a 911, a Mustang, and a Camaro. I have driven all of them for extended periods on the street only, so if you want tracking advice look elsewhere.

I could go into the pros and cons of each vehicle when it comes to involvement, bang for the buck, reliability, street legality, etcetera, but the bottom line is that your car should have one objective: to put a goofy grin on your face every time you drive it. The Z and GT-R, while in different classes, still maintain some of the best driving characteristics in today's street cars. They both make the pony cars feel like oversized boats on the road.

I would have a difficult time placing the 911 among the two Nissans. The most involving and visceral car is the Z, certainly. The most livable and elegantly sporty car, the Porsche. Godzilla, though? Your head will come unscrewed before you reach the limits of that car. Point is this: the 911 isn't necessarily better or worse than the Z or GT-R. Just like you and me, every car has a personality that comes with the good and the bad. If you love driving the Z, keep it. Once you get used to the face-melting acceleration of Godzilla, the drive is somewhat less exciting. Just press the gas and point the car.

I will be boosting my Z.

05-30-2013, 03:42 PM	#33 (permalink)
sfearl1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,300 Drives: 2013 FBO E85 GTR Rep Power: 18	__________________ Scott

07-10-2013, 07:08 AM	#35 (permalink)
mfeinst Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Greater Philly Area Posts: 272 Drives: Mercedes C43 AMG Rep Power: 13	I'm in a good position to answer this. Between me and the rest of my household, our stable includes my Z, a GT-R, a 911, a Mustang, and a Camaro. I have driven all of them for extended periods on the street only, so if you want tracking advice look elsewhere. I could go into the pros and cons of each vehicle when it comes to involvement, bang for the buck, reliability, street legality, etcetera, but the bottom line is that your car should have one objective: to put a goofy grin on your face every time you drive it. The Z and GT-R, while in different classes, still maintain some of the best driving characteristics in today's street cars. They both make the pony cars feel like oversized boats on the road. I would have a difficult time placing the 911 among the two Nissans. The most involving and visceral car is the Z, certainly. The most livable and elegantly sporty car, the Porsche. Godzilla, though? Your head will come unscrewed before you reach the limits of that car. Point is this: the 911 isn't necessarily better or worse than the Z or GT-R. Just like you and me, every car has a personality that comes with the good and the bad. If you love driving the Z, keep it. Once you get used to the face-melting acceleration of Godzilla, the drive is somewhat less exciting. Just press the gas and point the car. I will be boosting my Z. __________________ F.I. TT Kit -- GT2860RS [500rwhp/449ft-lbs @ 9psi][/B][/I] CAR SOLD...

07-07-2013, 12:50 PM	#34 (permalink)
dimsler Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 97 Drives: V36 Rep Power: 13	I've barked up this tree for the last 2 years. I've learned two things, both are money pits if you plan to mod them. But the Z is dirt cheap in comparison. In the end, **** happens, and if it does you'll be much happier in a Z, heres how I've done my math. Blow your trans in your Z? $1500 form a wreckers, $7k for a built one, $12k for a quafi sequential dogbox. Blow you trans in a GTR? $12k for a rebuild, $25k for a replacement if you blow the housing. Junkyard ones are hard to come by. Blow your VQ37VHR? $2500 from a wreckers, $10k for a built 4.5. Blow your VR38DETT? $15k from a wreckers, and built ones you won't really need unless you're joining the 1k hp club. Same applies to suspension and brakes. Unless you need AWD, the Z is lighter and cheaper in the long term.