Nissan 370Z Forum  

Stillen Supercharger estimates???

Anyway back on topic, stillen must be hard at work on this supercharger, I have not heard anything from them in awhile, I wish I knew if the G3 intakes

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-19-2009, 03:19 PM   #121 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NewYorkJon34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 3,041
Drives: 09 Fairlady Z
Rep Power: 1065
NewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Anyway back on topic, stillen must be hard at work on this supercharger, I have not heard anything from them in awhile, I wish I knew if the G3 intakes hooked up to the S/C?
NewYorkJon34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 04:07 PM   #122 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: new mexico
Posts: 141
Drives: 2007 335i coupe
Rep Power: 283
john370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

point taken...
__________________
2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...
john370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 07:20 PM   #123 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: new mexico
Posts: 141
Drives: 2007 335i coupe
Rep Power: 283
john370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond reputejohn370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by john370z View Post
I know I have a question and I am guessing many others are also interested in the answer as well. I would love to have a forced induction system (especially since I am at 5500 ft. elevation and am already loosing over 20% from that alone) but to use Ron Popeil’s term, I would like to “set it and forget it”. I would like the highest gains that are safe for the engine. I would not like to have the lifespan of the engine reduced by any significant amount. I do not want to have to take it to a tuner after the initial setup and install and initial tune. Basically I would like the overall reliability to remain while performance was greatly improved. Is this possible? Am I expecting too much? If I wanted 375+ rwhp, should I have bought a car that came that way from the factory? I would love to hear from GTM and Stillen about these questions. Thanks for your time and attention!
John
Iill look forward to GTM and Stillen solutions and answers!!!
__________________
2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...
john370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 01:04 AM   #124 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NewYorkJon34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 3,041
Drives: 09 Fairlady Z
Rep Power: 1065
NewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond reputeNewYorkJon34 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

^ why did you quote yourself? Stop talking up space in my thread. Do you even have a 370Z anyway cus it says you drive a BMW.
NewYorkJon34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2009, 02:03 AM   #125 (permalink)
NOT AN ACTIVE SPONSOR. DO NOT BUY
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CALIFORNIA
Posts: 913
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 18
SAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to beholdSAM@GTM is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by john370z View Post
Iill look forward to GTM and Stillen solutions and answers!!!
John

I don't think you are expecting too much, That is the way it should be and that is why we offer our GTM turn key so you can "set it and forget it " as you said .

-Our GTM Turn key solution whether TT or SC does not require a retune (maf tuning )

-Our engine management solution is done via flashing the factory ecu so basically you are getting the factory driveability just with a lot more power

Plus We are working on a good platform from the start, all those things will deliver what you are looking for and more ...All you have to do is just buy the GTM kit

Sam

Last edited by SAM@GTM; 09-20-2009 at 02:27 AM.
SAM@GTM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 12:59 AM   #126 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 6
Drives: 09 370Z / 97 240SX
Rep Power: 16
Throttle is on a distinguished road
Default STILLEN to use Eaton TVS?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN View Post
We're here... as always. The kit is under development. We'll have more details when we're closer to release, including pricing estimates.

We're not about creating hype before a product is develop and tested.
First off, I VERY much like STILLEN's attitude of its finished when its right - the quality of the end product is missing in so many of the bolt on kits and I am glad to see STILLEN doing it right. Extremely encouraging to see you guys taking your time despite some of the competition having released their products already. Kudos (and probably a SC kit sale)!

On another thread you mentioned a possible change from the M62 to the M90 due to the new 3.7L motor but you never confirmed... I know you can't release all the details but I was wondering if you could confirm the use of a TVS style Eaton unit? I'm curious if you guys are staying with the old design or going for a real step up. If you are using a TVS, I will most def be buying a STILLEN SC kit.

Thanks!

~Throttle
Throttle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2009, 07:58 AM   #127 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
LiquidZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,940
Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z
Rep Power: 705
LiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond reputeLiquidZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Throttle View Post
First off, I VERY much like STILLEN's attitude of its finished when its right - the quality of the end product is missing in so many of the bolt on kits and I am glad to see STILLEN doing it right. Extremely encouraging to see you guys taking your time despite some of the competition having released their products already. Kudos (and probably a SC kit sale)!

On another thread you mentioned a possible change from the M62 to the M90 due to the new 3.7L motor but you never confirmed... I know you can't release all the details but I was wondering if you could confirm the use of a TVS style Eaton unit? I'm curious if you guys are staying with the old design or going for a real step up. If you are using a TVS, I will most def be buying a STILLEN SC kit.

Thanks!

~Throttle
I also like their attitude when it comes to releasing new products, including their S/C kit.

Now, I would certainly hope they will be using the Eaton TVS. It is a serious step forward.
__________________
LiquidZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2009, 05:03 AM   #128 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vista, CA
Posts: 13
Drives: 06 cobalt SS/SC
Rep Power: 16
ColeJJones is on a distinguished road
Default

agreed. the m62 and the m90 are horrible superchargers... i have the m62 on my balt and that bitch heat soaks like its cool. same for the m90 if you throw pullies on it
ColeJJones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2009, 07:46 AM   #129 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
1slow370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: In the D
Posts: 3,732
Drives: v8 74 260z ;)
Rep Power: 7251
1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

common m62? m90? even the m90 is only used on a production car making what 265 flywheel? Would have to pulley the hell out of them to get the airflow we need and they would be just like trying to use 10 heat guns for your intake charge.
1slow370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2009, 12:38 PM   #130 (permalink)
Track Member
 
MMC Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 661
Drives: 2015 GT-R
Rep Power: 17
MMC Racing has a spectacular aura aboutMMC Racing has a spectacular aura aboutMMC Racing has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1slow370 View Post
common m62? m90? even the m90 is only used on a production car making what 265 flywheel? Would have to pulley the hell out of them to get the airflow we need and they would be just like trying to use 10 heat guns for your intake charge.
m90's are perfect for V6 engines such are ours. The m112 goes on V8 engines like the Lightning and Cobra.

Heat is held in check through intercoolers/heat exchangers..

You guys really need to stick to subjects you have experience on. Everyone knows the M62 on a 350z was not properly sized, but the m90 is a good choice.
MMC Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2009, 10:51 PM   #131 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
1slow370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: In the D
Posts: 3,732
Drives: v8 74 260z ;)
Rep Power: 7251
1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute1slow370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

don't get me started on the m90. I do have experience with it including full custom kits and modified stock application cars. I that blower tops out at 400 without porting, and i don't think that stillen will be porting the ones it sells in the kit. Our v6 is in the flow range of larger engines and would do better with a larger blower.
1slow370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2009, 11:33 PM   #132 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 495
Drives: Z
Rep Power: 0
JoeD is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1slow370 View Post
don't get me started on the m90. I do have experience with it including full custom kits and modified stock application cars. I that blower tops out at 400 without porting, and i don't think that stillen will be porting the ones it sells in the kit. Our v6 is in the flow range of larger engines and would do better with a larger blower.
Agreed.

I don't think you will see anything impressive with an M90, and even with an M112 you'll struggle to make similar power to GTM's modest TT setup. Figure the Terminator Cobra makes roughly 380 RWHP stock with an M112 at 8 PSI through a 4.6-liter DOHC 32-valve V8, and that blower on an engine pushing more air than the Z's runs out of steam approaching 500 RWHP.

I don't think any forced-induction setup on the 370Z will be worthwhile unless it will make at least 450 RWHP. Factor in the cost of parts/installation, supporting-mods, constant headache of what part will break next or tuning issues, powertrain warranty going out the door, etc...anything less, and you might as well stick with basic bolt-ons.

Last edited by JoeD; 09-26-2009 at 11:51 PM.
JoeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 02:55 PM   #133 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 6
Drives: 09 370Z / 97 240SX
Rep Power: 16
Throttle is on a distinguished road
Default Wrong crowd.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeD View Post
Agreed.
I don't think any forced-induction setup on the 370Z will be worthwhile unless it will make at least 450 RWHP. Factor in the cost of parts/installation, supporting-mods, constant headache of what part will break next or tuning issues, powertrain warranty going out the door, etc...anything less, and you might as well stick with basic bolt-ons.
My horsepower is bigger than yours!

Seriously, everyone that is waiting for the STILLEN SC kit to come out knows that the max horsepower gains are not going to be as high as a well done TT kit. Most of us don't want the headache of parts breaking, turbo timers, turbo lag in daily around town driving etc. What we do want is some more punch in our daily driver that comes in a well put together and thought out system.

I will give you guys this - from your angle, you are correct. The M62 is undersized and the M90 is questionable and does have heat problems when you start trying to push it. But if you are looking for some major gains, you should already know that this motor will do better with TTs than an SC so its a point that does not need to be brought up or argued.
*Beats the dead horse*

I've had both cars with SCs and TTs and for a daily driver, I prefer a SC. Heck I have an automatic trans (that is really damn cool btw) - OMG its a sports car crime! This is not, nor will ever be my super OMG ITS FAST LOOK AT ME! horsepower war platform and if you picked this as yours... you have already lost the game. So my friends, take your horsepower egos somewhere else and stop cluttering up this thread.

~Throttle
Throttle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 03:28 PM   #134 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: TX
Posts: 3,298
Drives: the 2 balled club
Rep Power: 22
Zsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to behold
Default

Hey all, just got a new Z, coming from the Audi TT, and I love the power but now Im wanting even more. When I had my Audi TT I just wanted under 5 secs 0 60 so thats why I went to the Z but now I want even lower but not a TT setup so I think the SC will do me great. My questions is there is no room in the engine compartment so will we have to get a new hood to accomendate (?) the SC? I really like the lines on the stock hood.
Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 04:16 PM   #135 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 6
Drives: 09 370Z / 97 240SX
Rep Power: 16
Throttle is on a distinguished road
Default

Z Steve,
A roots style will probably require some type of hood modification for clearance. STILLEN will most likey be using a roots sytle similar to what they used on the 350Z. That was an Eaton M62, hopefully they are using a new Eaton TVS style R1320 or an R1900 for the 370Z.

A centrifugal style won't require any hood modification. However, due to the dual side intake, a centrifugal style requires a little more hardware than you might think. GTM has a SC kit like this for the 370Z already. You may also want to check the thread about the Vortec SC as well.

~Throttle
Throttle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Official 370Z 1/4 mile Times thread (Stock, TT, Nitrous, Supercharger, Bolt ons etc) AK370Z Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 618 08-16-2019 01:56 PM
Stillen Gen3 Intake, Berk Hi-flow cat, and Stillen cat-back exhaust axio Intake/Exhaust 82 07-31-2009 01:41 PM
Altered Atmosphere: 370Z Stillen CAI, Berk HFC, Stillen Exhaust Install Jon@Altered Intake/Exhaust 18 07-03-2009 03:21 AM
Berk HFC's, Stillen Intake, and a Stillen Dual Exhaust.... 2theextreme The Lounge (Off Topic) 8 06-18-2009 11:01 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2