Stillen Supercharger estimates???

jmlenz · 12-01-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

400 at the wheels is around 472 at the crank (assuming 18% drivetrain loss)

400whp actually = 488 crank hp assuming 18% loss...but whos counting?

2010 will be good for the 370! By summer we should have at least 2 supercharger kits and ~4 TT kits to choose from!

Kyle@STILLEN · 12-01-2009, 08:14 PM

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

Buddy Revell · 12-02-2009, 12:12 AM

Is it gonna be centrifugal, roots, or twin-screw? Curious about the low-end torque gains more than the peak HP numbers.

NewYorkJon34 · 12-02-2009, 01:06 AM

Kyle, are we going to have to wait intill May or will we be getting any new info before the year is over?

Josh@STILLEN · 12-02-2009, 01:25 AM

We should have information before the show in May.. but we always test things before we release information..

imag · 12-02-2009, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

Sweet! So you're saying it's good for 450 rwhp?

1slow370 · 12-04-2009, 05:27 AM

Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May

Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.

Minicobra1 · 12-04-2009, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely

I don't think that is over delivering. Superchargers for the 370Z?

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

Minicobra1 · 12-04-2009, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May

Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.

Yep, that's what I heard too.

LiquidZ · 12-04-2009, 11:31 AM

Interesting info. Centrifugal superchargers are
still a great option.

1slow370 · 12-04-2009, 10:16 PM

it also explains how they can say it will fit under the hood as well

LiquidZ · 12-04-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely

I don't think that is over delivering. Superchargers for the 370Z?

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

I'm with you. I really like Stillen's ethics on product development, however, if they keep hiding info, people are going to look at other companies for forced induction.

JB-370z · 12-04-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

I'm with you. I really like Stillen's ethics on product development, however, if they keep hiding info, people are going to look at other companies for forced induction.

I think your right here bud!

Josh@STILLEN · 12-04-2009, 11:41 PM

We'll have information soon.. and part of true R&D is testing testing testing.. ensuring a kit like this is built to the standards of STILLEN and Steve Millen. Not trying to "hide info"..

NewYorkJon34 · 12-05-2009, 02:51 AM

If your not trying to hide info Josh, why can't you just tell us the type of supercharger Stillen is trying to make? That's all alot of us want to know!

12-04-2009, 11:31 AM	#250 (permalink)
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Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 307	LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone! I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

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Buddy Revell Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 303 Drives: 08 Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 16	Is it gonna be centrifugal, roots, or twin-screw? Curious about the low-end torque gains more than the peak HP numbers.

12-02-2009, 01:06 AM	#244 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	Kyle, are we going to have to wait intill May or will we be getting any new info before the year is over?

12-02-2009, 01:25 AM	#245 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 534	We should have information before the show in May.. but we always test things before we release information..

12-04-2009, 05:27 AM	#247 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.

12-04-2009, 10:16 PM	#251 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	it also explains how they can say it will fit under the hood as well

12-04-2009, 11:41 PM	#254 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 534	We'll have information soon.. and part of true R&D is testing testing testing.. ensuring a kit like this is built to the standards of STILLEN and Steve Millen. Not trying to "hide info"..

12-05-2009, 02:51 AM	#255 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	If your not trying to hide info Josh, why can't you just tell us the type of supercharger Stillen is trying to make? That's all alot of us want to know!