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elperuano 04-24-2013 01:33 PM

Motordyne Manifold with boost
 
Anyone running boost with the motordyne manifold?
On the DE motor guys ran the 5/16 spacer with good results. I did as well. Hoping anyone can chime in.

Mr.Squeeze 04-24-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2282942)
Anyone running boost with the motordyne manifold?
On the DE motor guys ran the 5/16 spacer with good results. I did as well. Hoping anyone can chime in.


I would like to know this but I am not willing to test it lol

Sh0velMan 04-24-2013 02:36 PM

I bet you it results in an up-tick in torque. Pressurized air causes tubes to have different (Higher, I would think) resonant frequencies, meaning an intake runner tuned for 7500RPM on this engine may be tuned for much higher at more than 1 atmosphere of boost.

Edit: Which is to say, an intake tuned for a lower RPM (like the HR intake) would benefit our engine in that case because it pushes the resonances back down into a usable range.

The spacer mentioned above does the same thing, increases volume of the runner, thus decreasing resonant frequency.

elperuano 04-24-2013 04:21 PM

That does make sense.
I wish someone tried this. I might be able to get one for cheap, but not sure if it would be beneficial to me. Also it would mean I would have to re-tune and thas another 8 hour road trip!

DEpointfive0 04-24-2013 04:23 PM

There are a few people who do have it. But it isn't worth it.
The 1% gain isn't worth the 5% higher chance of your car exploding.

I make a similar manifold, and I pressure test it, but I don't put it under pressure for hours upon hours

elperuano 04-24-2013 04:33 PM

Thanks for the replies. Guess it's a no go

XwChriswX 04-24-2013 04:33 PM

If a spacer really does that much positive to the motor, why haven't we seen them for a 370z yet? Doesn't seem like much production work is needed vs engineering work?

W.O.W. 370Z 04-24-2013 04:34 PM

I had in on my z. :D

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elperuano 04-24-2013 04:35 PM

^ yea. I don't even see that much NA guys run the motordyne manifold. On the DE platform almost everyone had the 5/16 spacer. I'm guessing these motors jus flow too well for it to have any REAL worthwhile positive gains

edub370 04-24-2013 04:36 PM

i would like to see how the kinetix mani does with boost myself. the shortage of intake options for our car is astounding

elperuano 04-24-2013 04:47 PM

Didn't even know Kinetix made a manifold for the g37/370

edub370 04-24-2013 04:51 PM

they made something like 5 of them

lost hp on NA apps from what i read. something about too much airflow or something. could potentially be great with boosted apps.Its a shame, because their manifold was a work of art!

http://www.z1motorsports.com/imageGa...2_itemId=86549

DEpointfive0 04-24-2013 05:14 PM

3 were made, no dynos, no proof of gains

Staples 04-24-2013 07:10 PM

They don't offer too many options because the stock intake does pretty well as is. The Motordyne didn't make power up-top, but it makes a good amount of horsepower and torque in the mid-range.

When I build my motor next year, I'll be putting the Motordyne manifold on my car and going with the stage 3 supercharger upgrade kit.

When I was N/A I tuned my car with the MD intake compared to the stock. Tuned, it made 14 - 16ft-lbs torque in the mid-range more than with the stock manifold, and 12whp in the mid-range.

elperuano 04-24-2013 07:33 PM

With my current hp/tq numbers I'd be scared of more tq. 500 is pretty much max for me. Wish someone with turbos had this. I'm sure it's not worth it at this point, but built block and more boost I'd like to see if it helps at all. Car has so much midrange I'd prefer more top end power.

Z eliminator 04-25-2013 07:45 AM

Mine made great power for me , just look at my 1/4 mile times and !/8 mile time 7.392 seconds.
i will be running it on my stage 2 GTM.

Z

Sh0velMan 04-25-2013 08:52 AM

Guys, I don't know if you know this, but.... Z_eliminator has done 12.343 @114.14 All Motor in the quarter.

fuct 04-25-2013 02:44 PM

:icon18:

SS_Firehawk 04-25-2013 03:22 PM

I'll be running it on mine too.

Z eliminator 04-26-2013 12:15 PM

And it made 3 rwhp more than the stock intake.
im now tuning the car with uprev and i feel that i got better overal performance when i had my home made Cobb tune on the car.

roplusbee 04-27-2013 11:54 AM

I would like to get rid of my M370, but I can't switch back to the stock manifold since I don't have it. The next manifold I get will be aluminum. No more plastic for me.

elperuano 04-27-2013 02:09 PM

I know the manifold is somewhat good on NA but I don't think it makes much difference when goin FI.

On the DE motor the Cosworth works great with FI and has shown great gains. I'd hope any boosted rides could go this route more. I'm 9 hours from my tuner, if, Z1 wasn't so far away I'd do some before n after dynos.

Z370Z011 04-27-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2288664)
I would like to get rid of my M370, but I can't switch back to the stock manifold since I don't have it. The next manifold I get will be aluminum. No more plastic for me.

Even trade for my stock one? :)

COSMO 04-27-2013 05:44 PM

The stock plastic one is a lot better for Heat-soak....

roplusbee 04-27-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2288796)
Even trade for my stock one? :)

As soon as I get my Kinetix or a working lower manifold adapter for the GT-R one, you can have it.

DEpointfive0 04-27-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2288796)
Even trade for my stock one? :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2289286)
As soon as I get my Kinetix or a working lower manifold adapter for the GT-R one, you can have it.

Both of you suck!!! I'll buy it!!! Lol

Or if Z370Z011 gets it, can you please let me look at it for a week before you install it?

Z370Z011 04-27-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2289286)
As soon as I get my Kinetix or a working lower manifold adapter for the GT-R one, you can have it.

woooo!! :happydance:

Z370Z011 04-27-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2289293)
Both of you suck!!! I'll buy it!!! Lol

Or if Z370Z011 gets it, can you please let me look at it for a week before you install it?

Now your the pain in my :icon23: ....:rofl2: Dont kill it!!!!!!! LOL
well if id get it then sure, u can look at it lol


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