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When Vince tuned my car he set my boost controller I wonder if he set Gales when he tuned his car . |
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Just thought this info might help in confirming the theory the vq37 flows a Lot of gasses in the high rpm bands. :tiphat: |
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psc273d9c2.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3ea59c51.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psa053ff0d.jpg Things are moving along very well, and it is much better making this many at once. It is a bit repetitive, but that is just the way it is. |
I'm using the same hks boost controller as well
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My 350z has a Haltech, and it has an on board EBC. With the RPM's the duty cycle is increased (when in open loop). So at 4,500 rpm I have 5% duty cycle and have it set in increments of 5% for every 500rpm after that, up to 25% at 6,500rpm. Boost is a flat line at 10psi. Very simple to set/use. The car is making 450whp, with a rather small (compared to the 1.15 a/r twin scroll) .68 a/r open inlet turbine. I will give Vince a call tomorrow and see if he has a bit of time to talk about it. |
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So, I just spent some time on the phone with Vince.
To sum it up, the boost is nothing to worry about. The car (as you can see by the HP curve) continued to make more power with the higher boost (+50whp over spring pressure run), even though it looks like it is tapering off. There are many variable at play (including VVEL, and the dyno MAP sensor), and since the car already made very good power, there was no need to spend a lot of time with the EBC setting to try and flatten out the boost curve. It also takes extra time to really dial in an extra few psi (small increments over base pressure) of boost with the EBC like we are trying to do here. Vince felt like the kit performed very well and made power with ease. Here is a better looking dyno graph as well: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8545/8...6d8eef27_b.jpg So that settles it I guess. I will still go ahead and do the test on my end to see what the exhaust back pressure is like. However, I am no longer thinking that it is a concern. |
Not only did you get my numbers first, you also got the digital copy of my graph first! :bowrofl:
Vince did explain that to me... I forgot most of it until you mentioned it again. I should hire someone to record my conversations so I can play them back later to refresh my memory. :p |
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Vince posted the graph in your build thread. I just copied the link and pasted it here.. :) |
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I just found it. I'm blaming the forum, your thread showed first in my list of new threads. I'll let it go this time. :icon17: |
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Most 2JZ's are cammed with turbo specs to increase high RPM power but will not make the low end as the VQ. Once VVEL is perfected we will see the same results (top end) if not better than the 2JZ. |
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Congrats Sasha glad to see your kit doing well ,and nice to see you get some recognition for you kit.:tup: |
Here's a video I made of it on the dyno,
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Congrats, great numbers! I can't to join the FI fraternity....:tup:
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All tacked up ready for welding:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps505c654d.jpg And throught the magic of internet...all welded up: http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psd66f547b.jpg The manifolds are the most time consuming, but they are almost done now. All the post intercooler piping arrived today as well. Will be working on that soon, so it can be sent out for finishing. |
Update? :eekdance:
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I have had some unexpected stuff come up recently so the kit have been moving along slowly. My wife and kids are going to Disneyland on Friday for 10 days, so I hope to catch up during that time. The hard part (manifolds) are almost done though.
Some testing was also done this past weekend on a customers car. A turbine housing was drilled and tapped to see what the exhaust back pressures are like with the 1.15 a/r housing. Things looked great, prooving that this (1.15 a/r) turbine is a great match for a stock block, and a built block for those who would be looking at 600whp+. I would still opt for the 1.32 a/r on a built block, but the 1.15 would also do well. This customer made 530whp/430ft/tq at 10psi of boost. |
Hey Sasha,
Trying to get stuff ordered and ready :excited: Are the fittings on the oil cooler 8AN or 10AN? I'm going to run one of these on each side for oil pressure and oil temperature: JEGS Performance Products 110530 JEGS Fuel Pressure Gauge In-Line Adapter Fittings Thanks dude! |
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The best place to take oil pressure is at the OEM oil pressure sensor, so I would just add another T to the turbo oil suply line. As for the oil temperature, it is best to take it at the oil pan spacer. The spacer would be drilled and tapped so the temperature probe is in the oil. This is true oil temperature, since this is where the OEM oil pickup is. Idealy, you would want to have a sensor that has a long probe like this: http://www.omega.com/Temperature/images/PR30_m.jpg This will allow you to reach further in to the oil pan, providing the ultimate in accuracy when it comes to oil temperature. If you have a sensor with a short probe, it will never reach outside of the threaded cavity (since the spacer is wide) and there would be no oil movement, in turn providing a false reading. |
How much of a difference do you think there is between the hot side of the cooler and the oil pan? I would imagine using the hot side will afford me the opportunity to always read a bit high for some cushion.
I'm still leaning towards measuring at the oil cooler line. Easier install, safer wire routing, and my probe definitely isn't that long (insert joke here). |
Hows all of the turbo business going Sasha? Any updates on your kits? Sorry to bump an old thread, but its been a while since I have seen you post anything.
In other news, im still on track to purchase one of your kits mid to late spring of next year if there is one available. I have been juggling buying a house, paying for a wedding, the normal life expenses, and saving for your kit lol. |
I must admit that I have slowed down this summer, focusing more on familly time. As a result the kits are not quiet ready yet... about 80% complete now.
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subbed to see if anyone falls off the list of 12 for 10 kits
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Just a heads up guys, I will start taking deposits on 9 kits in about a couple of weeks.
If you are on the list (first page) please confirm that you still plan on proceeding with a BP twin scroll turbo kit. Couple of things worth mentioning: -30 row oil cooler is now standard -UpRev tune will be password protected (longs story, going back to a 350z customer) **The base map will still be good to go, but slightly detuned for safety*** -All kits will come with recirculated wastegates, ope dumps available at lower price -Engine bay IC piping will be powder coated wrinkle black: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6...9c8bd444_b.jpg -Each charge pipe will have a nipple before the TB. These will be for wastegate pressure reference. So no more T fittings on that end...passenger side nipple to passenger side wastegate lower port, and driver side nipple to driver side wastegate lower port. If you are using an EBC, then you will need more hose, and a T-fitting. Everything else stays the same....quality turbo kits from BP :). Sasha |
Lookin forward to another round of great kits. :tup:
Still gonna throw the curve ball of can anyone with an AT stop by to see if it can be done... :icon17: |
Confirmed and excited :happydance:
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What's the expected delivery time? I'm getting tired of waiting for my MHI kit...
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Anyone getting this kit will not only get a high quality kit but also Sasha's top notch customer service.
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Updated list:
1) Nut_N_Much 2) Morterbooble 3) NitrousZ34 4) chewy08753 5) m3chhawk (BB upgrade) 6) Rondo 7) xgrudgex 8) sfearl1 9) V8Killer 10) Cbtech 11) faceglide |
Just wanted to chime in and say that you sir are an artist.
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