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Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2751708)
Those are some great numbers but to me that's too much usable power. I would be afraid of taking a sharp turn and not being able to handle it when the rear breaks free. Again to maintain such power takes a lot of time and money.

That's the beautiful of having a boost controller for me I'm use to my power level so I would like spring pressure to be 650whp-700whp then go from there.

COSMO 03-24-2014 07:54 PM

Boost controller or not with 1000 hp.. ok

Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2751808)
Boost controller or not with 1000 hp.. ok

It can be done my friend I have seen it not on this platform yet though.

wheee! 03-24-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2751385)
Not sure what you mean by VVEL hp limit the highest I have seen on one of these engines is 850whp it was a GTM car.

I thought that the engine was limited to under 600whp because of timing issues with the vvel. In order to bypass this limitation people were talking about head swapping with a vhr engine. I truly thought we couldn't keep going up in hp until vvel was cracked! Am I wrong?

Chuck33079 03-24-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 2751847)
I thought that the engine was limited to under 600whp because of timing issues with the vvel. In order to bypass this limitation people were talking about head swapping with a vhr engine. I truly thought we couldn't keep going up in hp until vvel was cracked! Am I wrong?


Yep. The fast intentions guys are pretty much all over 600. One over 650.

Alstann 03-24-2014 08:16 PM

Underground Racing Lambos are running 1500hp+ on the street all day. ;)

Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 2751847)
I thought that the engine was limited to under 600whp because of timing issues with the vvel. In order to bypass this limitation people were talking about head swapping with a vhr engine. I truly thought we couldn't keep going up in hp until vvel was cracked! Am I wrong?


Yes you are, look at the number in my sig been running this way for 2 years now built motor.

Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2751861)
Underground Racing Lambos are running 1500hp+ on the street all day. ;)


Those Lambos are just retarded fast I have had the pleasure of seeing some in person.

Joepro 03-24-2014 08:38 PM

I just watched some data logs from my AEM gauge, the base map is quite good IMO for a base map on this kit, definitely a bit rich but around 10.3-10.5 consistently at 6-7 psi, this is getting too fun...upset I did not tap the RPM wire now, I think I will do that tomorrow.

Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2751886)
I just watched some data logs from my AEM gauge, the base map is quite good IMO for a base map on this kit, definitely a bit rich but around 10.3-10.5 consistently at 6-7 psi, this is getting too fun...upset I did not tap the RPM wire now, I think I will do that tomorrow.

Your car is pig rich once you take it to Vince he will set you straight.

Joepro 03-24-2014 09:17 PM

Yup cannot wait!

09nismo498 03-24-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2751949)
Yup cannot wait!

How is the tune though, other than being on the rich side? Gonna be a month or so after install before i'm able to go get tuned, just curious how well it runs and everything on the base tune.

jlo370z 03-24-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 09nismo498 (Post 2751955)
How is the tune though, other than being on the rich side? Gonna be a month or so after install before i'm able to go get tuned, just curious how well it runs and everything on the base tune.

we can do our tunes same day, where do you plan on going? im starting my install Thursday

Joepro 03-24-2014 09:23 PM

Honestly it drives really well, off of boost you would never know it has a turbo, you can cruise around town with no issue.

09nismo498 03-24-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2751961)
we can do our tunes same day, where do you plan on going? im starting my install Thursday

project x probably. I started my install a few days ago, got a lot done, but its been hard to find time the past few days to work on it unfortunately. When are you thinking of tuning, and where?

jlo370z 03-24-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 09nismo498 (Post 2751970)
project x probably. I started my install a few days ago, got a lot done, but its been hard to find time the past few days to work on it unfortunately. When are you thinking of tuning, and where?

same, eli @ project x. i need to put a bunch of miles on my clutch before I go, but i plan to do that quickly LOL

09nismo498 03-24-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2751971)
same, eli @ project x. i need to put a bunch of miles on my clutch before I go, but i plan to do that quickly LOL

yea haha, I'm going to install my clutch at work once I finish the kit at home, then I have to break it in as well. Maybe it will work out and we can do it the same day. Just depends on how much time I get to finish installing everything. I have suspension, engine and trans mounts, and diff bushings as well to install when i'm done with the kit...

TopgunZ 03-25-2014 02:27 PM

Well gang. Ill be joining you very soon.

My turbo and other parts showed up today!!!! WHOOOOP!!

Im like in the BP round 2.5 list though..lol...

My car is sitting on jack stands already with some head work out of the way. Plan on having it done mid April then putting 500 miles of clutch break in then Dyno. This will be on E85 with loads of timing for quick spool.

Cant wait!

jwick 03-25-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2752991)
Well gang. Ill be joining you very soon.

My turbo and other parts showed up today!!!! WHOOOOP!!

Im like in the BP round 2.5 list though..lol...

My car is sitting on jack stands already with some head work out of the way. Plan on having it done mid April then putting 500 miles of clutch break in then Dyno. This will be on E85 with loads of timing for quick spool.

Cant wait!

If all goes well I should be done with the build Easter weekend. Clutch will be broken in by the end of this week so I'll be able to see full boost as soon as I do the check-out and leak testing.

jlo370z 03-25-2014 09:42 PM

we got my z in the air tonight and took a inventory of parts/ laid them out for the build. will follow the instructions up to taking the exhaust apart, once at that stage we will drop the trans and put in the clutch kit before finishing up on the turbo kit. tare down begins tomorrow

jwick 03-25-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo370z (Post 2753625)
we got the my z in the air tonight and took a inventory of parts/ laid them out for the build. will follow the instructions up to taking the exhaust apart, once at that stage we will drop the trans and put in the clutch kit before finishing up on the turbo kit. tare down begins tomorrow

Congrats!

jwick 03-26-2014 09:14 AM

Is the tap included with the kit (and the barbs supplied) 1/8NPT?

Boosted Performance 03-26-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2754190)
Is the tap included with the kit (and the barbs supplied) 1/8NPT?

Yes.

jwick 03-26-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2754207)
Yes.

Thanks Sasha. Figured it was but wanted to double check before I pulled the trigger on my Amazon order for a couple additional barbs.

Blaizon 03-26-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2751215)
Since I am really considering switching to this kit from my GTM kit. I have done some trolling on the 6766 turbo I would get with this kit. This dyno is from a 3.0 Supra. I feel that if this is ran on a built motor 370z 700whp pump gas wouldn't be a problem at all.



http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9f225be2.jpg


Do it! Your car will be a highway beast!

Mr.Squeeze 03-26-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaizon (Post 2754305)
Do it! Your car will be a highway beast!

:iagree: I am itching after next weekends event at Pocono Raceway my GTM TT kit will be for sale.

G37sHKS 03-26-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2754337)
:iagree: I am itching after next weekends event at Pocono Raceway my GTM TT kit will be for sale.

Do it!!

elperuano 03-26-2014 11:42 AM

:iagree:
Dooooeeeeettt!

Chuck33079 03-26-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2754337)
:iagree: I am itching after next weekends event at Pocono Raceway my GTM TT kit will be for sale.

I missed a step somewhere. Aren't the turbos you have good for a lot more than the 15(?) psi you're running them at? What do you gain by swapping kits that couldn't be gained by working with the existing one?

Boosted Performance 03-26-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2754390)
I missed a step somewhere. Aren't the turbos you have good for a lot more than the 15(?) psi you're running them at? What do you gain by swapping kits that couldn't be gained by working with the existing one?

The combination of small T25 housings and poor design/flowing manifolds will limit maximum power. So you can put whatever turbo you want on there, you will always be limited to the turbine housings and manifold design.

If you compare any manifold to the F.I units, it is very obvious which manifold will flow more/better and produce much better results.

Remember this picture I took:

T25 .63 a/r turbine compared to a Precision T4 1.0 a/r (that is only a 1.0 a/r housing too, they go up to 1.32)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7577.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7579.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7573.jpg


Whatever air the compressor pushes out, the turbine has to be able to handle as well.

Chuck33079 03-26-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2754415)
The combination of small T25 housings and poor design/flowing manifolds will limit maximum power. So you can put whatever turbo you want on there, you will always be limited to the turbine housings and manifold design.

If you compare any manifold to the F.I units, it is very obvious which manifold will flow more/better and produce much better results.

Remember this picture I took:

T25 .63 a/r turbine compared to a Precision T4 1.0 a/r (that is only a 1.0 a/r housing too, they go up to 1.32)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7577.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7579.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7573.jpg


Whatever air the compressor pushes out, the turbine has to be able to handle as well.

Agreed, but it would seem there's a lot more left in that kit and those turbos before you hit the wall.

Mr.Squeeze 03-26-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2754390)
I missed a step somewhere. Aren't the turbos you have good for a lot more than the 15(?) psi you're running them at? What do you gain by swapping kits that couldn't be gained by working with the existing one?


The turbo I have now are rated at 480 each but I am held back by the log style manifold that come with the GTM kit and the small .64 A/R housings that I have on the car now.This is the reason I have been stuck and haven't ran anything more than 18-19 PSI. It is just to much backpressure from manifolds and housing's that I have on the car. I could just change the housing's with the manifolds I have now but the motor has to come out to do that. Pulling the engine in and out on these cars with a TT setup is not cheap.

In the end I am selling my GTM kit because the New V3 manifolds have not come out and I have been waiting a year for them. I would love to have the new manifolds upgrade my GT3071r's turbo to HTA billet wheel's 640 HP each. This would be very cost effective for me but I am just tired of waiting.

Chuck33079 03-26-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2754445)
The turbo I have now are rated at 480 each but I am held back by the log style manifold that come with the GTM kit and the small .64 A/R housings that I have on the car now.This is the reason I have been stuck and haven't ran anything more than 18-19 PSI. It is just to much backpressure from manifolds and housing's that I have on the car. I could just change the housing's with the manifolds I have now but the motor has to come out to do that. Pulling the engine in and out on these cars with a TT setup is not cheap.

In the end I am selling my GTM kit because the New V3 manifolds have not come out and I have been waiting a year for them. I would love to have the new manifolds upgrade my GT3071r's turbo to HTA billet wheel's 640 HP each. This would be very cost effective for me but I am just tired of waiting.

Ah, I didn't realize you were running the smaller GT30s. That's definitely going to choke.

Mr.Squeeze 03-26-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2754422)
Agreed, but it would seem there's a lot more left in that kit and those turbos before you hit the wall.


I have already hit that wall almost 2 years ago at 650whp yes I can push it more and go to 700whp maybe a little more. But I have choose not to push it due to all the backpressure to much of it is not good for an engine.

Mr.Squeeze 03-26-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2754453)
Ah, I didn't realize you were running the smaller GT30s. That's definitely going to choke.

Yes this is what Sam sold me at the time I wasn't as educated as I am now. I know what I want and I know what well make power. What I really would like is TT kit that has good flowing manifold's and two GTX3076R turbos or a HTA3076 but that is not available for our cars.

So Boosted performance is leading the pack right now as the next best option.

COSMO 03-26-2014 12:19 PM

Also keep in mind the gtm t25 on their exhaust manifolds were undercut by 1/4 of an inch.. Check out my pictures.

Mr.Squeeze 03-26-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2754470)
Also keep in mind the gtm t25 on their exhaust manifolds were undercut by 1/4 of an inch.. Check out my pictures.

Yes I saw that to in your pictures.

GaleForce 03-26-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2754337)
:iagree: I am itching after next weekends event at Pocono Raceway my GTM TT kit will be for sale.

:rock:

zguynate 03-26-2014 09:20 PM

I started surgery today. I got everything off that needs to be off. My exhaust was a whore. I had to sawzaw the y-pipe off of the rear portion because of all the rust on the nuts lol. A 14 was too big and a 13 was too small. The demon bolt was surprisingly easy. Slowly but surely...

jwick 03-26-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 2755340)
I started surgery today. I got everything off that needs to be off. My exhaust was a whore. I had to sawzaw the y-pipe off of the rear portion because of all the rust on the nuts lol. A 14 was too big and a 13 was too small. The demon bolt was surprisingly easy. Slowly but surely...

Sweet another BP build begins! Good luck my brotha


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