I would recommend the following:

- Clutch/Flywheel/CSC upgrade (buy a new CMC too since they appear to be one use items)
- Radiator Upgrade
- Proper gauges to monitor conditions (Boost/Oil Temp/Oil Pressure/AFR)

- I also recommend a bunch of heat management (Header wrap, therm-tec, inferno heat shield, etc.). A melted wire is a minor inconvenience (well depending on what melted), a melted WG hose will likely lead to a new motor.

If you get serious about purchase PM me and I'll send you my build list for reference.

A LSD if you've got the non-sport model.

Good catch. Never occurs to me you can get one without it. You buy a 6MT G, you get everything.

I have the Touring Base. Things I am already planning on are clutch/flywheel, LSD, brake kit, suspension set up. I think my RE11's should kjeep up nicely.

Going to get the clutch done before the turbo install, since im not really sure if I can handle that on my own

I'm doing the same thing. Clutch goes in next week, then it's chew threw 500 miles as quickly as possible.

Lol. Nothing will keep up nicely!! :icon17:

And an IC will do nothing from keeping the motor where it was placed and out of the cab area if you were to be in a high speed head on. Yes it protects the engine in a slow speed frontal but it protects the body at high speeds. :eekdance:

How long is the wait time if I order a kit?

After having looked at the OEM aliminum crash bar and my GTM intercooler, I'd have to give the edge to the intercooler as a structural support. The OEM bar is just boxed AL, right? If that's the case, the IC will hold up better since it's got an internal structure to add some strength, right?

You are going to have to wait for Sasha to answer this one as he doesn't have any fabricated at the moment.

I'd have to see an actual cut cross-section to answer that. At first thought I would think the OEM bar would fair better with a single mid-point load impact which the IC fairing better with full frontal. I just don't know how much the end tanks on the IC will support considering they are not inline with the frame supports.

A vertical cross-section of both and I could calculate it for you.

I believe the OEM crash bar is designed to direct force around the front of the car and down the frame (i.e. the length of the car). Look at how and where it attaches. There is no doubt in my mind that an intercooler will not perform as well in a crash as the factory, engineered crash bar.

I have looked at it. That's why I think it'll function quite well as a crash beam. It mounts to the same locations, and the internal structure of the core is going to give it more intenal support than the OEM bar assuming that's just square aluminum. I haven't seen one cut open, so I can't say that for sure. Then the only difference would be the slight curve of the OE bar as compared to the flat IC, right?

Obviously we'll never know for sure since nobody's about to crash test these things.

Let's hope at least! :eek:

I think one potential issue is the fact that the ICs are a bunch of welds holding various parts together (end-tanks, core, etc), whereas the crash beam is a contiguous piece of metal. The welds are going to be the weak point in the ICs I suspect. As soon as one lets go, then the force vectoring of the IC in a crash would be toast. It's one of the primary reasons I elected the GTM kit, since it keeps the crash bar. Unfortunately, that decision hasn't really panned out.

That's the rub- how strong are those welds to the endtanks and mounting tabs. Looked plenty strong, but who the hell knows, and I'm not about to send it somewhere for a round of destructive testing to find out. I will say it weighs a freaking ton, so I have no doubt it will serve just fine in low to moderate speed collisions.

Sorry Sashsa for this thread jack...

However, weld material is always stronger than the base material (assuming the welder used the correct rod). When welding A992 (50ksi) material we call out a E70 rod which has a yield stregth of 70ksi, this is welding 101 and required by AWS D1.1 Structural Welding Code. If a weld is done properly than the material around it will yield first. That's why all of us structural engineers prefer to weld everything. You basically weld it and forget about it.

You wouldn't have to crash test it. Just draw both in CAD and run an FEA analysis. The tabs on the intercooler won't transfer force to the frame anywhere near as well as the OEM crash bar does.

This has nothing to do with how strong the material is. The intercooler could be a two in thick plate of steel and still would get pushed into the engine that would get pushed into the bay, if it wasn't attached to the frame.

The crash bar designed and bolted to the frame. On impact that bar takes the energy and puts it to the frame of the car therefore consuming the energy around the driver. The frame is a thousand times stronger than any intercooler. The car frame is rigid and you keep your legs.

Not saying the IC wont help, but it will be of minimal help to your body at high speeds.

Ok..lets get back to turbos!! :tiphat:

Soooo....who's going to be next to join the BP family? Last post I saw Sasha was going to build 2-3 kits in the next couple months. Who's garage are they going to?

Ill be interested if he made 7AT kit.
Nothing wrong with my GTM kit and do not wanna sell it for anything else especially after I upgrade to GTX turbos 3 month ago.

But Iam a single turbo type guy :D

But the IC is bolted to the same framerails that the OE crash beam is. :confused: At least mine is.



Agreed.

Due to popular demand, I am building 5 kits right now. 4 are kind of already spoken for, and #5 will go on a local HR 350z as a part of test fitting.

In need to clone myself....maybe a couple of times. Time for a trip to GB I guess, and then I can check out the RH drive platforms at the same time.


On the crash bar part...I don't think the FMIC will be as strong as a properly designed/engineered structural OEM piece. I do plan to look at my options when it comes to this in the future.

Oh snap! I was unaware this kit is designed to bolt onto the frame. :wtf2:

Well in that case it would help much more than the usual top single bolt. But not "as good" as the oem bar. But still I would feel much better about this with that design.

Damn this kit! Why cant I find flaws!..lol :bowrofl:.. This is really an engineering marvel.

I've got a GTM kit, but every IC I've seen has used the same mounting locations. There really aren't many other places to bolt something big and heavy in the nose of the car.

Lots of setups use this style.

Yeah, that's not going to stop a wet fart.

Some pics of the IC set-up:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7291.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7237.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7227.jpg


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7200.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7199.jpg


All the brackets/hardware are made out of 304 stainless steel. These will outlast the car by a long shot since they will never corrode/rust..EVER!

I WILL 100% be ordering a kit sometime in august

I finally got my kit in the mail (Stupid weather and UPS delays) and I have to say, this thing is more impressive in person. Giant props to Sasha, and I havent even installed the thing yet lol.

I am definately going to pull the trigger on this soon! Make a 6th kit Sasha

Will this kit play nice with the Motordyne manifold?

Sasha, have you sent GTM a thank you note for all the business they've sent your way? :rofl2:

Welcome to the Forum!

See your also in Mile high. We could tear around sometime if your bored. :driving:

:tup:

Good to hear...glad you are happy with the quality..and thank you.

:tup: Sounds like I should be making 10 kits NOW.

I don't see any reason why it would be an issue.

No need. I let the product and support do the sales/talking. It was just a matter of time before this kit became very popular. Taking good care of customers will go a very long way, especially in a community that has been subjected to sub-par service/support.

You guys now have two fantastic options for forced induction between Fast Intentions and Boosted performance. Too bad I don't live close to those guys (F.I)...just imagine a merge...

:worship:

Im always down to meet up with fellow Z owners here!

Lol


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I took mine off, swapped back to the OEM, no gonna put a hole in a 500 dollar piece of plastic :) the stock manifold seems to be fine with any boost application.

Small update on my build, I ran into a small snag, everything is done except the manifold is a tad shorter than it should be because I welded on DE flanges, I had to grind a small bit off the subframe, and I am going to add another DE flange as a spacer on the passenger side and all will be well! Bryan at BERK Technologies is overnighting me some flanges, so I should be running on Friday!

I did have one stupid question, the AEM instructions say the wideband should be 18 inches from the turbo, the bung is much closer than that, anyone foresee any issues with that? I am getting so close I can take it... too bad the weather is still being stupid.

My Innovate calls for the same thing. I did a bunch of research and lots of people put it closer. I also made myself comfortable with the fact that most setups have the turbo on a turbo manifold right next to the engine, which is probably where the 18in comes from. Our kit has it after the cross-over pipe. I made myself comfortable by saying that there is more than 18in of pipe between the header flange and the O2 bung.

There is nothing to worry about when it comes to the wideband placement. Most turbo setups put it only a few inches down stream from the turbine (supra's for example).

No plans of boosting my car but man I was entertained and educated by reading through pages and pages in this thread. I enjoy reading everyone's feedback.

OK, carry on.

Who knows, I might succumb and fail to resist.