Engine Build / Stroker before FI - Thoughts and Questions

Nismodean

Thank you Mike for stepping in and explaining why the stroker kit works the way it does. Too many people here assume they know what they're saying as fact when it's all just opinion. Guys please, most of that information that Mike just put out on this thread is damn near word for word on the GTM website. Opinions are nice, but for the love of God also know the facts that they put out on their product! It seems almost a wasted effort that people don't want to take the time to read a few paragraphs of the product they're interested in only to take the opinions of others as gospel. GTM is a highly respected and well engineered company, I doubt Mike would let anything out of his shop that has such serious compromises as what was assumed here in this thread. That's a slap to the face IMHO.

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The Truth, it hurts sometimes. FI LTH & FI CF CBE. This is a 370Z forum, if I want to fling poo at another brand of car and your feelings get hurt, then you're hanging out in the wrong forum (cry elsewhere).

tower74

We're sorry. We didn't realize our opinions counted in your eyes. Next time we will ask you before we post something. Thanks for straightening us out.

elperuano

Hahahahahaha

370Z Purist

I read you want to use the car for track or HPDE? I have a close friend who races SCCA autocross and has taken numerous HPDE days and has raced multiple times at Road America... I can tell you right now that you should develop your skills with the car. I would highly recommend, based on advice given, that you learn to reliably and consistently push the limits of the car in it's current form (given some suspension upgrades) before trying to push a short-wheelbase, tail-happy, relatively-lightweight car around a track with 500+ wheel horse and 450+ wheel torque.

If anything, I would go for FI kit and aim for 500 wheel, then build it if you are absolutely confident you can take more power. I'm not trying to condescend, but you're not exactly a race driver at the moment, and the skill it requires to control a 800+ horsepower time attack car, despite all the downforce and grippy tire, boggles my mind.

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-Phil

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Nismodean

That would be a welcome thing! Please feel free to know the facts about the item under discussion or well thought out opinions instead of hearsay, wives tales, and grossly misplaced assumptions. If you want to back up your point Tower74 with facts vice elementary trolling please do.

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The Truth, it hurts sometimes. FI LTH & FI CF CBE. This is a 370Z forum, if I want to fling poo at another brand of car and your feelings get hurt, then you're hanging out in the wrong forum (cry elsewhere).

mhcoss

SS_Firehawk

I think I'm going to get my hands dirty on this one. Nismodean, everyone here offered suggestions and thoughts. Others have experience, and a lot is common knowledge. To say everyone who tried to help just blurted out useless information is crap. You just waltz in here and preach about the greatness of Mikes post and crapping on everyone else. I like Mike and GTM and his input is invaluable. But it does not devalue the input of the community. You can't dictate what is relevent, that's the OP's job. You know, the guy who opened the thread. He didn't compain. I have a hard time blaming Tower74 for poking you with a stick. I'm not sure what benefit your posting had.

So can we get back to what the thread was about? I want moar displacement! I don't remember where I read it, but it's better to have peak torque higher in the powerband. Can't remember specifically what was said, something about the engine being able to handle the stresses better at high rpm rather than down low. This may be something to look further in to. Also flexing 500+whp for extended periods of time involves a serious amount of cooling. Outside of that tuning is key to the longevity of the engine.

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roplusbee

I'm going to get in on this as well.................

Since when does nut hugging on someone else's post make your post valid or fact filled / valid. Last time I checked, GTM is not the be all end all of VQ related products. They do have a good deal of expertise when it comes to working on or with the VQ platform, but damn! A couple posts from GTM and this dude wants to use their experience to get snippy. If you see mis-information, post the facts that refute the bad information instead of be a ****-bag.

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I went with boost first and plan to build around the end of the year (if not sooner). Of course I have looked at the GTM products, but I will only go with them if I have to. That is not a stab at them, but I think a combination of the Fanboys AND some of the events that have come to light in the last 3 years have made me shy away. That is why, Zerolift did my GREDDY TT install and UPREV did my tuning. Since I am on that piece, Fast Intentions is going to be my first choice for TT revamp if I go that route. They will also be my first choice for ANY exhaust work and AAM (yup, that's right) is my backup custom modification provider. More than likely, I will go back to Zerolift for my engine build when the time comes, but I may go with KR Motorsport (local to Killeen/Fort Hood) or whoever UPREV uses for that service (per OMAR). If I were near GA, I would go with Z1 or Forged, but that is a 14-15 hour drive from my current location and 8-10 hours from home. Take it for what it's worth dudes!

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2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift | UPREV | F.I. | Greddy | Competition Clutch | Injector Dynamics | Aeromotive | Pioneer | JL