GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

George@GTM

You are concerned that an intercooler core is going to fail? I don't think I have ever seen an intercooler core fail on any forum that I have been on.

We use a local foundry for our castings and all the welds and fabrication are done in house. By the way you would be surprised were most of the parts on your car were made.

Regarding the turbos, we are not making that up anywhere. We are taking a loss and have upgraded the people on the group buy at no cost since they have had to wait for an extended amount of time.

-George

George@GTM

Benci,

I received your PM and will look into the order you placed through Z1 Motorsports for your turbo kit.

Thank you.

Benci

Your email is seeming to operate much more productivley than recent phone attempts . Thank you much sir look forward to hearing from you.

m3chhawk

The intercooler core is just an example. I have seen countless heat exchanger failures in both R&D and field environments. Stress corrosion cracking, corrosion fatigue, de-lamination, etc...

Actually I wouldn't be surprised, I work for an automotive OEM. But as I said before, it depends on your QA/QC in the foreign production facilities. How is yours in China?

I understand you are losing on the price difference between the turbos and it cut in to your profit. I'm also not naive enough to think you are selling the kits at a loss now.

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Dzel

So if your using a local foundry and everything is done in house? What are you guys waiting on from your vendors again?

I may be wrong but last we heard your foundry was over seas hence why it was out of your hands to put psi on them to get the job finished???

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conmam

Guys, what is going on here with low quality Chinese product for this kit??? I heard intercooler and exhaust manifold failures so far. What else is there ?

Chuck33079

Where have you heard of actual failures? So far in this thread we've just got speculation about this kit.

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DEpointfive0

Question... Sorry my head is killing me so maybe I missed it...
But is the hold up intercooler cores? Or the end pieces that are welded onto the cores?

If it is the cores, wasn't there a pic posted saying something like '100 cores ready for our TT kit'?
If not, carry on

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SPOHN

This.
We've all seen the pics of the crates they came in from the oil pans. How else would this kit be done so cheap? If the foundry is local what's there name? Don't BS me I talked to Sam. And got lied to twice

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conmam

I have not heard any failure from anywhere besides this thread. I hope it's just speculation so far ??

Chuck33079

Which is it? You were the one claiming you heard of failures. Like the whole "they're dropping people off the list who haven't paid in full" bs YOU started earlier in the thread, maybe you should avoid speculation so others don't take what you say as anything resembling a fact.

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conmam

Let me be VERY clear. When I said " I heard intercooler and exhaust manifold failures so far" it was SOLELY from this thread. I have NOT heard about any failure anywhere else. Cut and dry !!!

Now, I did talked to GTM on the phone about 3 weeks ago personally and they did tell me that they would like to receive the payment for the kit in full as soon as possible because the later you pay, the higher chance that you might not be able to have the group buy price. That's the WHOLE truth, no speculation and NO BS at all. I am so confused about this whole nightmare.

George@GTM

Hopefully this will clear up some confusion...

The delays in manufacturing have been the turbo kit piping and the castings.

The piping delays have been resolved and the pipes are currently being manufactured in-house.

We are still waiting on the cast pieces, we have changed some things (will post details at a later date) for the new V3 kits and are using a local foundry for our casting pieces.

The intercooler cores are manufactured overseas and are high quality, our supplier makes these cores for a number of manufacturers over various platforms. Most of the forced inductions kits you see on the market for a number of vehicles are made overseas. Would you not buy an iPhone because it is manufactured overseas?

There have been ZERO intercooler failures in case anyone is confused, and I have never seen one on any platform in the last 10 years.

Out of the over 300 turbo kits we have manufactured over the last few years for the VQ community we have only heard of a few cracked turbo manifolds.

It is important for people to know that if your car is extremely low (like mine ) and you are not careful and keep bottoming out your exhaust system it will fatigue the manifolds and they are more likely to eventually have stress cracks. I personally have 3" flex sections in my down pipes in the event I do bottom out for it to absorb some of the impact.

If you take a piece of hot cast iron and keep bagging it with over 3,000lbs what do you think would happen over time? Regardless of what turbo kits you have I would recommend adding a flex section pre-turbo on the exhaust or be very careful.

If it was a manufacturing defect there would be a lot more than handful of cracked manifolds out of the over 600 manifolds out there on the road.

We are striving to get everything on track and our #1 priority right now is to get everyone involved in our group buy their products. I have received some PM's regarding the Free Garrett turbo upgrade if the customer needed to do something on their part, the answer is no if you are part of the original group buy and did not back out you will be receiving a free Garret turbo upgrade at no cost automatically this is our way of apologizing for the unforeseen delays and trying to make things right.

No one will be getting the MHI turbos from the group buy.

I hope this helps and I encourage anyone to PM with any issues they have with their order, we are trying our best to do the right thing and take care of all our customers. I am confident once everyone that has waited patiently (which we greatly appreciate) receives their kit they will be extremely happy with the quality and value. It was a great deal before and even better now with Garret turbos

Thank you,

-George

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Wait.. George is Back at GTM?

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Dzel

So now you have to pay in FULL to get the group buy price? Did I miss something? Or are you guys hurting for money?

I know for a fact that Mike stated you only have to pay half or some amount to lock in your group buy price.

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