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Old 01-24-2014, 05:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I agree. Did any one else pay for the kit yet ? I talked to GTM today and my impression was that if we don't start paying ASAP ( They did not specify any dates ), that person might be eliminated from the group buy price. Can anyone confirm this please.


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Good luck everyone!
Oooooooohhhhhhhh ponzi scheme Bernie.....gotcha!

I can just imagine the feedback on this forum if GTM started cancelling the group buy discount for anyone who hasn't paid yet without letting them know beforehand!!! It would be pure carnage!!!
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Oooooooohhhhhhhh ponzi scheme Bernie.....gotcha!
Clever right??

Obviously this is not a Ponzi scheme. What we do see is classic small business cash flow issues. Sam is the backbone of the business and his health incident may have been a terrific blow to the company. 1 in 4 small business owners don't have any health insurance in this country, so that question comes to mind also.

If cash flow was not an issue, GTM would be responding to all this bad publicity by speeding up refunds. Their slow action only creates more doubt. Not in your mind of course because you have a vested interest in it not being true.
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Clever right??

Obviously this is not a Ponzi scheme. What we do see is classic small business cash flow issues. Sam is the backbone of the business and his health incident may have been a terrific blow to the company. 1 in 4 small business owners don't have any health insurance in this country, so that question comes to mind also.

If cash flow was not an issue, GTM would be responding to all this bad publicity by speeding up refunds. Their slow action only creates more doubt. Not in your mind of course because you have a vested interest in it not being true.
From what I have read GTM have always been slow in both communication and action. This goes back for years and I don't think that it is really news to anyone here. I haven't dealt with them myself previously but the quality of their products seems to have always made up for thier failings in other areas.

If you want to read into the current situation that GTM have cash flow issues then thats fine, I have thought of that myself in the past. What I would would personally never do, is make comments insinuating such a thing without anything more than vague guesswork to support my hypothosis. Especially when I have no involvement with the company and others do. I would definitely never make such comments in a discussion about a product that I have no personal interest in and that others have resonably large amounts of money invested in. That would (in my opinion) be a very low thing to do, due to its sole visable purpose of attempting to create histeria, fear, doubt and panic in others.

I liken it to someone that you have just met tellng you that they have a headache and then going around telling that persons family and friends that you think that its probably brain cancer. Based on the evidence at hand you could end up being correct but its still a prick of a thing to actually do......
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From what I have read GTM have always been slow in both communication and action. This goes back for years and I don't think that it is really news to anyone here. I haven't dealt with them myself previously but the quality of their products seems to have always made up for thier failings in other areas.

If you want to read into the current situation that GTM have cash flow issues then thats fine, I have thought of that myself in the past. What I would would personally never do, is make comments insinuating such a thing without anything more than vague guesswork to support my hypothosis. Especially when I have no involvement with the company and others do. I would definitely never make such comments in a discussion about a product that I have no personal interest in and that others have resonably large amounts of money invested in. That would (in my opinion) be a very low thing to do, due to its sole visable purpose of attempting to create histeria, fear, doubt and panic in others.

I liken it to someone that you have just met tellng you that they have a headache and then going around telling that persons family and friends that you think that its probably brain cancer. Based on the evidence at hand you could end up being correct but its still a prick of a thing to actually do......
I still have an interest in seeing GTM succeed. I still want my CARB certified supercharger from them. I would take no pleasure in seeing them fail. That said, some people need to open their eyes a little. Something is not right here.
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It's never been this bad. It's never been great, but this has gotten really bad.

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Something is not right here.
We don't agree often, but you hit the nail on the head here.
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I still have an interest in seeing GTM succeed. I still want my CARB certified supercharger from them. I would take no pleasure in seeing them fail. That said, some people need to open their eyes a little. Something is not right here.
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It's never been this bad. It's never been great, but this has gotten really bad.



We don't agree often, but you hit the nail on the head here.
Good to see that the entire point of my post was completely missed......

I hope that I am never on a plane with either of you guys. If there was a noise that sounded slightly off you two would probably scream "we're all gonna die!!!". Instead of doing the clever thing which would be to ask a flight attendant if everything was ok. But hey, at least screaming "we're all gonna die" lets everyone on the plane who has already heard the same noise know that there may possibly be a problem, right....
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I still have an interest in seeing GTM succeed. I still want my CARB certified supercharger from them. I would take no pleasure in seeing them fail. That said, some people need to open their eyes a little. Something is not right here.


I hope Sam and GTM can pull through this fragile situation because like I mentioned earlier, they are the only one so far in the market that can provide such a turbo kit that is as close to factory made as possible. So, think positive and hope we can support them through this nightmare and by the end we'll all be benefited.
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they are the only one so far in the market that can provide such a turbo kit that is as close to factory made as possible.
Let's not go crazy here. They make a good kit, but things will always have to be massaged to fit. Aftermarket parts will never fit as well as factory.
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Ha ha this **** again?! Please explain........
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Oooooooohhhhhhhh ponzi scheme Bernie.....gotcha!

I can just imagine the feedback on this forum if GTM started cancelling the group buy discount for anyone who hasn't paid yet without letting them know beforehand!!! It would be pure carnage!!!
I hope you are right. It is NOT fair for GTM to eliminate anyone the group buy without letting them know. So far, we heard nothing from GTM announcing anything like that in this forum. Am I correct ? Please..
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I hope you are right. It is NOT fair for GTM to eliminate anyone the group buy without letting them know. So far, we heard nothing from GTM announcing anything like that in this forum. Am I correct ? Please..

Nothing indicating that. It's all just rumours at the moment.
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