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G37sHKS 02-07-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2683706)
Gtm is better than greddy, stillen, hks, aam, bp. But i think its equal to fast intentions imo.

:shakes head:

Dzel 02-07-2014 03:27 PM

Um one word... No.

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Dzel 02-07-2014 03:29 PM

The best kit out there IMO is the FI kit. Best kit for the price is the BP kit. Both have great engineering behind them. But the BP kit will save you with total cost including install.


Trust me I know I've been on all the FI threads. Like a dog on bacon!

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m3chhawk 02-07-2014 03:53 PM

It's not that hard to figure out...
Most affordable: GTM MHI (at group buy pricing of course)
Best bang for the buck: Boosted Performance
Money no object: Fast Intentions

SPOHN 02-07-2014 05:10 PM

Owning a true reliable racecar = priceless

Cell 02-07-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2683752)
It's not that hard to figure out...
Most affordable: GTM MHI (at group buy pricing of course)
Best bang for the buck: Boosted Performance
Money no object: Fast Intentions


MHI is NOT the most affordable. After getting an invoice the price is very similar to BP. MHI still needs oil coolers/colder spark plugs. The 3" downpipe alone was at least another 800 dollars and that is with the discount.

Once you factor in cost of install then MHI will cost more than the BP kit. Unless you do it yourself then the price is very close to being similar.

R3drckt09 02-07-2014 06:06 PM

For what it's worth, I called Sam last weekend and he basically said what he said above, "the cast parts are coming in and pipes are being bent, we just have to wait for them all to come in". Then I asked for like an honest unofficial estimate on when it will ship and he said it would most likely be within 2 months. Obviously not a concrete date, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

DOOMMONKEY777 02-07-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2683711)
:shakes head:

Thats comming from a guy who bought all his crap from gtm, so effing say it GTM engineering is better.:confused:
http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...turn-fuel.html


U know wut i dont really care dont answer, maybe i got something wrong,

conmam 02-08-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2683448)
If this is the 'best kit on the market' why is it cheaper than all their other turbo kits? Are the more expensive ones sub-par and not worth buying?

I'll admit that there are a lot of positives to this kit and all things consider it could be the 'best option' for certain people but calling it the best kit is a bit of a stretch.

Just one example , find me a TT kit out there that does not require the removal of the front crash bar. Are there any ?

Now as far as reliability of the the components and performance of this upcoming kit, we'll have to wait and see once it has been installed, tuned and run on as many 370Z as possible. Keep our fingers crossed.

George@GTM 02-08-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeDrk (Post 2682840)
Realistically what is the absolute date that this kit will be deliver... Just tell us.. Even if it's will take another 6 month or so... We just wanna know then wait in the dark with a promise saying it coming along it's coming along...


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In the next few weeks we will have a more exact delivery date. It will be sometime within the next few months, definitely not 6 months. :)

George@GTM 02-08-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2683448)
If this is the 'best kit on the market' why is it cheaper than all their other turbo kits? Are the more expensive ones sub-par and not worth buying?

I'll admit that there are a lot of positives to this kit and all things consider it could be the 'best option' for certain people but calling it the best kit is a bit of a stretch.

When we say what we believe is going to be the best kit on the market, that is our opinion and we try to make our products the best out there, and will always continue to innovate and make new and better products - as we have for years.

There is a lot of different criteria for what would constitute the best kit, kit A might be the best for a certain person while kit B would be best suited for someone else.

The group buy pricing, and the retail pricing are 2 different things. Also when you manufacture products in higher quantities you are often able to be more competitive on pricing and pass your savings along to your customers.

George@GTM 02-08-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 2683706)
Gtm is better than greddy, stillen, hks, aam, bp. But i think its equal to fast intentions imo.

Fast intentions looks like a great kit, I have not seen one in person but from what I have seen its looks great and they did and awesome job.

We are trying to bring products to the Nissan/Infiniti community at the same level as GReddy, HKS, Stillen, etc. but with a more affordable price point and better products. In my opinion our forced induction options are better than those competitors so I am glad you bring them up.

George@GTM 02-08-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2683955)
MHI is NOT the most affordable. After getting an invoice the price is very similar to BP. MHI still needs oil coolers/colder spark plugs. The 3" downpipe alone was at least another 800 dollars and that is with the discount.

Once you factor in cost of install then MHI will cost more than the BP kit. Unless you do it yourself then the price is very close to being similar.

Any FI kit should run an oil cooler and colder plugs, unless you are running water injection you can skip the colder plugs but why would you for the cost?

As cylinder temperatures and pressures are much higher with any type of forced induction, including nitrous, it is recommend to run colder plugs in order to avoid hot spots and pre-detonation. Cheap insurance.

George@GTM 02-08-2014 02:42 PM

At GTM we strive to bring the Nissan/Infiniti community the best products we can, with in house R&D, manufacturing and installation. This gives a certain amount of experience in the VQ platform that is unrivaled in our industry. I don't know of anyone that has more hours tuning VQ's than Sam.

Although it may seem easy from an outside perspective there are many challenges faced when developing the amount of supercharger kits, turbo kits, and supporting modifications we offer. We are passionate about what we do and that is why we do it and will continue to do so.

Things are only going to be getter better and more efficient so that future products will roll out much smoother.

Trust me we want everyone waiting to already have our turbo kit - why wouldn't we? But if it takes longer than expected and our reputation has to suffer that is what has to happen so that our customers get the best quality products that GTM is known for.

Thank you.

-George

Dzel 02-08-2014 04:39 PM

You need to strive for better customer service. That's the bottom line. If I could of waited for the kit I would of. But GTM's treatment of its customers doesn't stop at their wallets. You guys have affected people's contracts with sponsors, charities, shows, families even, and not including the money and time spent on prepping the car for the kit. This is where GTM needs to improve. You can polish a piece of coal all you want, but at the end of the day it's still a piece of coal. You have to put in work if you want a diamond.

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