Stillen SC... I know I know..
 

Ok...before I get blasted for not using the search feature, let me explain. I have used it. And although some of the information is there.. I'd just like a little more "specific" feedback on the situation.

I'm thinking about getting the Stillen Supercharger and hoping to reach a goal of about 500hp to the wheels. I'm not positive on how feesable that is...but that's my intent.

I found out today that the Nissan dealership in my area is an authorized dealer for it and they're also able to install it. However installing it partially voids some of the warranty.

My question is... what do you guys think about purchasing those parts through a dealer and allowing them to install them? Is that more/less safe than finding an actual aftermarket shop and having them do it?

Also what would you guys assume is a fair price for installation? They quoted me at $1320. give or take a little bit.

Last but not least what other mods (because I'm sure the SC by itself wouldn't do it) would you suggest (reasonably) that could get me to my goal? And if you happen to have a location/site with the best price and customer service could you post that as well.

I know somewhere through the thousands of posts that these answers exist somewhere...but I'd greatly appreciate it if you guys laid down some knowledge right here in this one.. LOL

Thanks everybody!:tiphat:

Lol, at least ur ready for the flaming!

Look up AMNVQ. That will give u a lot of good info about going the "dealer" route.
Your warranty will be voided because to gain the "500" hp you will need a custom tune and the Stillen can tune is garbage.
Don't know anyone making 500 on Stillen. Baer is a little over 500 on a Gtm 1.5 SC.
Since ur gonna lose ur warranty, there are far more superior kits out there to make that mark.

Couple people have tried to reach 500 with the stillen kit. and they have failed. To much of a hassle. Go with the GTM stage 2 if you want a SC with 500.

I personally wouldnt go to the dealership for anything unless it's to fix something under warrenty. Many shops in your area have probably installed many SC/TT kits on a Z and you might be the guinea pig for youe dealership. No matter what the cost is i'd go with the shop that has more credibility and experience with the Z. So do your homework. A install and a tune is a differance between a blown engine or a long lasting engine.

yea ask AMNVQ how the warranty issue works......

Yea AMNVQ went down trying. havent heard from him since.

Sorry man, you aren't going to get close to 500whp with the Stillen kit. 450 is a slightly more realistic number and that's high. I don't have this kit, but I would expect a pulley upgrade, 928 impeller upgrade, custom tuning, full exhaust, idk... will take some work. If 500 is your goal, I would look elsewhere.

Can't blame the guy. Lost a lot of money trying to make the 500 mark on the "Stillen" kit.

I know this next question is ridiculous so be gentle...

Assuming the shop I take it to doesn't have a dyno...is the car safe to drive just to get it to one that DOES have a dyno? Or would driving it at all with the FI stuff installed screw things up?

I'm only asking because I know someone who owns an aftermarket shop, so I may get a litle better deal in terms of man hours, but they don't have a dyno..

You can install everything and just leave the blower belt off and it should be ok to drive...just don't try driving crazy like that. It will just be running with no boost. Have the aftermarket shop put the belt on and tune it.

Are you buying the "tuner" kit?

If its on the sh!t stillen can tune then yes you can drive it.

Uhhh if ur nickel and diming... FI is not for you.

I have survived the "flaming".....puhhhh...:icon18:

I came from 300hp (original) to a littel over 500hp
(NOT WHP)

I love the extra power, and the kit for 2 years and 24'000 km :driving:
500hp are also in my view the maximum without much intervention
(but that's enough for me and had no problems so far)

Installing the kit necessarily by a professional, with a custom setting
This important suggestion I can give you

Greetings

Should be noted he lives in Switzerland. Everyone here in the states can agree 500 on Stillen is not gonna work. Lol, car looks great tho!

:iagree:....we ride 98 to 100 octane there...:tup:

Nice! Wish we had that grade of gas here at the pumps... 93 is the highest I believe. Some parts have 94.

:eek2: :eek2: Wow I have to drive to the airport to get that kind of octane.

So what you're saying is if I want to go FI I should get the most expensive install I can possibly find? LoL How does that make sense? I'm trying to find the best possible bang for my buck. I'm trying to do it right the first time...no mistakes. That's the whole point.

Anything you guys suggest I can afford flat out...trust me. It's not about the money.

Much appreciated.. Yeah in my area it's really hard to find a reputable shop that's not raping people due to the fact that there's not too many of them. I'm doing tons of research...and it's looking like I'm going to have to venture some hours north.

The height of the Octane is great!

BUT:

1 liter (0.2642 gallone) will cost us 2 Swiss francs (1.6 dollars) :mad:

NOW Back to topic

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don't look for the greatest deal, look for the most reputable and effective. Some places will transport your car to their shop if it's far away and will do the work. I'd rather do that then go with Stillen and a dealer. But that's a personal opinion.

almost worth it to make the trip to Z1 in Atlanta.

LoL..yeah it's looking like a unanimous decision on the dealer. But in terms of a deal I was referring to the parts themselves.. As in if there's a reliable site offering a SC kit for 9k and another offering the same one for 6k.. I'd definitely prefer the one for 6k.


Btw I appreciate everyone's input.

Hmmm...Atlanta you say? Not too far. I'll do some research...I hear quite a bit of chatter about them. I thought they made parts..I didn't know they were a tuner shop... LOL..please excuse my ignorance.

:tup:

I am of the same opinion!
For such a conversion, just go to an experienced tuner

I'm fortunate enough to have some reputable shops near me, but Z1 is very good at tuning the Z's. Friend of mine that lives close to me took his there. I wouldn't hesitate to take mine there if i didn't have any other options here. Nothing worse than a bad tune from an unreputable shop, or a shop that has never worked on a Z, or a shop that has never worked with the Stillen kit. Z1 has, and you can ask any of the Atlanta Z guys, they'll swear by them.

Good luck, no one said to go for the most expensive kit. You chose to go with the cheapest and most inferior kit. Hope it turns out good for you.

If you don't mind me asking, what are you getting out of your SC?

What other kit would you suggest?

391whp. But that was on a mustang dyno which reads lower than dynojets do. I plan to re-dyno on a dynojet (easier to compare to everyone else's numbers) after i get my clutch and diff installed.

Ok...dang. And I imagine you're pushing it close to it's limits?

should be between 440-460 on dynojet. you won't get much better than that. 500whp is not likely; the intercooler on this kit cannot adequately cool above 12psi.

You only have 2 options if ur staying with SC. Stillen and Gtm. Quick search you'll find some guys runnin Gtm SC with far better numbers. Ask Baer383. I believe he's the highest hp on SC around here. Over 500 but using meth.

If ur goin turbo there's lots of kits out there that will hit the mark u want with ease. Price wise is not that much difference from a SC. Believe the cheapest all together including labor will be the BP kit.

Someone else is running 542 on meth, IDR the username though. It's stage 2 GTM SC. I think the 1.5 is better for the OP though if he looks at GTM's offerings. There are quite a few guys making 480+ with their superchargers. Mine's under the knife but what I'm doing is not cost efficient... at all.

LoL..understood.

So let's say I go twin turbo, I can achieve 500whp on a conservative amount of boost?

My 516 rwhp is 93 octane only:tiphat:also I'm running 11 psi

I'm over 500 at 12 lbs. conservative tune. Bout 6-7k miles no problems at all.

LoL..I may have to discuss some things with you in the near future.

I'm over 500 at 12 lbs. conservative tune. Bout 6-7k miles no problems at all.

Will be the fastest, easiest way of achieving 500 and even more if u want for the future.