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Voice59 03-18-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2219985)
I'm over 500 at 12 lbs. conservative tune. Bout 6-7k miles no problems at all.

May need to talk to you as well.. LOL

btw...you're in Broward as in county? FL? I got a cousin that lives down there. I'm orginally from Miami/Homestead.

elperuano 03-18-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2219983)
My 516 rwhp is 93 octane only:tiphat:also I'm running 11 psi

Don't forget to tell him ur on meth! He might be expecting the same numbers!

Baer383 03-18-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2220000)
Don't forget to tell him ur on meth! He might be expecting the same numbers!

I'm not on meth I had meth on my 2010 I sold the kit my Nismo doesn't have it, all 93 octane baby!!!!!


The 516 rwhp and 383rwtq is the SC only

elperuano 03-18-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2219990)
May need to talk to you as well.. LOL

btw...you're in Broward as in county? FL? I got a cousin that lives down there. I'm orginally from Miami/Homestead.

I'm from Miami/Opa-Locka.. Moved up to Broward.

elperuano 03-18-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2220006)
I'm not on meth I had meth on my 2010 I sold the kit my Nismo doesn't have it, all 93 octane baby!!!!!


The 516 rwhp and 383rwtq is the SC only

Wow nice! Didnt know that!

Voice59 03-18-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2220007)
I'm from Miami/Opa-Locka.. Moved up to Broward.

Nice... I'm up in VA now. Joined the Navy..lol

What brand turbo kit are you using?

elperuano 03-18-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2220023)
Nice... I'm up in VA now. Joined the Navy..lol

What brand turbo kit are you using?

I'm running the stage 2 gt28 gtm kit. 3" downpipe, 3" exhaust.

Voice59 03-18-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2220036)
I'm running the stage 2 gt28 gtm kit. 3" downpipe, 3" exhaust.

Cool... I'll look into that turbo kit.

elperuano 03-18-2013 07:26 PM

The most cost efficient kit is the BP kit if thas what ur looking for. When I bought my kit there was only 1 option. Gtm. Now there's BP, Fast Intentions. They have come out with some well developed kits.

Voice59 03-18-2013 08:26 PM

Thanks man... appreciate the assistance.

ZKraken22 03-18-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 2219821)
:eek2: :eek2: Wow I have to drive to the airport to get that kind of octane.

Wow nice to know so when that day comes when i need to find it i know where to go.

rhd 03-18-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2220006)
I'm not on meth I had meth on my 2010 I sold the kit my Nismo doesn't have it, all 93 octane baby!!!!!

The 516 rwhp and 383rwtq is the SC only

One tough deal getting off meth these days... :icon18:

LafitteZ 03-18-2013 10:23 PM

gtm stage 2 twin turbo 540whp on 12 psi. Same kit and same dyno a year later ran 538 whp at z1. Daily driven car. Call z1 motorsports and talk to jon theyll fix you up nice.

Mr.Squeeze 03-18-2013 11:02 PM

OP leave the Stillen kit alone you will modify the kit to even try to get 500whp. Trust me I tried made 465 whp dynojet there hasn't been anyone that made more. There are so many things that are wrong with the kit it's not worth your motor I hurt my stock motor doing so.

If cost is your main factor and you want 500whp I would look at these kits in this order.

1.Boosted performance mid mount single turbo
2. GTM supercharger kit
3. GTM TT kit.

From reading your post option 1 and 2 seem to be more cost effective for you.

deuce189 03-19-2013 12:07 AM

:tup: To me 500whp with an SC on a Z is mighty impressive. I'd be happy with 420whp, be plenty for a street car.

I'm thinking an SC is well within my budget and keeps er reliable. What kind of MPG are you guys getting though on average?

axio 03-19-2013 12:21 AM

I think on average, i'm getting about 18mpg on my GTM Stg2 SC Z putting down 507whp with meth and crappy California 91 octane.

dansracing 03-19-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce189 (Post 2220826)
:tup: To me 500whp with an SC on a Z is mighty impressive. I'd be happy with 420whp, be plenty for a street car.

I'm thinking an SC is well within my budget and keeps er reliable. What kind of MPG are you guys getting though on average?

I have the Stillen on my car with a top notch installation and an awesome tune by JTran Studio's in Houston. My MPG is unknown because you will have trouble keeping your foot out of it which will obviously effect it. I see it as pretty close to where I was before with normal speed limit driving. Larger injectors, high volume fuel pump, and the SC itself are going to suck the gas when your foot is in it.

I have 415 WHP and I am happy with it. Joy to drive and fast enough for me. (qualify) (fast enough for me)

You will need an oil cooler as well so put that in your budget too.

swiss370Z 03-19-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dansracing (Post 2221258)
You will need an oil cooler as well so put that in your budget too.

:iagree: 1000%

Peculiar 03-19-2013 01:27 PM

There are plenty of shops in Charlotte that do FI tunes. Check out MotionLab to start. They are a vendor on here I believe?

theDreamer 03-19-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2219695)
Ok...before I get blasted for not using the search feature, let me explain. I have used it. And although some of the information is there.. I'd just like a little more "specific" feedback on the situation.

I'm thinking about getting the Stillen Supercharger and hoping to reach a goal of about 500hp to the wheels. I'm not positive on how feesable that is...but that's my intent.

I found out today that the Nissan dealership in my area is an authorized dealer for it and they're also able to install it. However installing it partially voids some of the warranty.

My question is... what do you guys think about purchasing those parts through a dealer and allowing them to install them? Is that more/less safe than finding an actual aftermarket shop and having them do it?

Also what would you guys assume is a fair price for installation? They quoted me at $1320. give or take a little bit.

Last but not least what other mods (because I'm sure the SC by itself wouldn't do it) would you suggest (reasonably) that could get me to my goal? And if you happen to have a location/site with the best price and customer service could you post that as well.

I know somewhere through the thousands of posts that these answers exist somewhere...but I'd greatly appreciate it if you guys laid down some knowledge right here in this one.. LOL

Thanks everybody!:tiphat:

I will break down your first post to help the best I can.
-Stillen SC is a solid kit, but it has been shown to not have much expansion room beyond the original design/output. If you really want 500whp then I would suggest rethinking your plan, but 400-450whp is a great power output for the z34 platform.
-Nissan dealership is a good install location as they will be able to quickly diagnosis any errors that might take a stand alone shop longer, though a typical install is fairly straight forward. But, make sure you are covered on your warranty & other work so they try not to void other parts of your car that are not related to the SC. Price for install seems fair, I would suggest making it a straight price from them, so they cannot come back & say it took 5 extra hours to that is an additional $500.
-Additional mods needed:
*Dyno tune - get this, do not use the factory stillen tune
*Oil cooler
*Guages - this can either be digital or analoug but seeing more than the factory gauges will be needed to monitor the engine
*Clutch/flywheel/csc - not needed first day but be prepared
*Brake upgrade - Pad/fluid/line/etc is not needed at first but is a good suggestion to help support the car

An additional suggestion is not just cooling the car more, but also think about venting the car. Additional heat can be contained but removing it from the engine bay is better. Also, set aside some additional funds for those "bad" days.

elperuano 03-19-2013 01:48 PM

Warranty? Lol...

If I'm not mistaken, to keep warranty on the 370 with Stillen you need to run the Stillen tune.
So any dyno u take it for a tune will void the warranty u guys try to keep.

If all else fails, jus asi AMNVQ how his warranty turned out with Stillen and the dealer and every receipt he held onto.

theDreamer 03-19-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221656)
Warranty? Lol...

I kept my warranty other than the engine for obvious reasons.
Had many things replaced after the SC install under warranty.

Almost bought an extended warranty, but after reading it most items that could wear or most likely break after 50k are not really covered under the extended warranty I care about.

elperuano 03-19-2013 01:56 PM

So u didnt have warranty for the motor correct?

theDreamer 03-19-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221669)
So u didnt have warranty for the motor correct?

For the most part yes, never needed to test this with the SC thankfully.
I am sure if I bent or snapped something internally that is voided but even with stillen gen 3 intakes a dealership will fight you on it. But if the oil pan exploded I could see them helping with that since the SC is not touching that & is probably factory defect.

elperuano 03-19-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2221671)
For the most part yes, never needed to test this with the SC thankfully.
I am sure if I bent or snapped something internally that is voided but even with stillen gen 3 intakes a dealership will fight you on it. But if the oil pan exploded I could see them helping with that since the SC is not touching that & is probably factory defect.

I don't think that's what they mean about warranty. When going FI everyone is only worried about blowing the motor. Warranty on anything else is not really a major concern.

theDreamer 03-19-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221685)
I don't think that's what they mean about warranty. When going FI everyone is only worried about blowing the motor. Warranty on anything else is not really a major concern.

Maybe, but it seems dealerships are very quick to point the finger. Just a reason I suggest if he works with a dealership they are happy to work with the SC & all warranty issues that could occur. Be it a window motor to the A/C.

elperuano 03-19-2013 02:34 PM

ANMVQ did the exact same. Kept every receipt from the dealer, even paperwork. He got screwed royally when his motor blew by the botch install of the dealer.

Dealers are stealerships. They go by the book. Some of the techs know what they are doing. Others don't. A reputable VQ shop is far more capable of installing SC or TT than any dealer will ever be.

theDreamer 03-19-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221721)
ANMVQ did the exact same. Kept every receipt from the dealer, even paperwork. He got screwed royally when his motor blew by the botch install of the dealer.

Dealers are stealerships. They go by the book. Some of the techs know what they are doing. Others don't. A reputable VQ shop is far more capable of installing SC or TT than any dealer will ever be.

It all depends, mine was done by a dealership who builds Z & GT-R but they just handle the install and farm-out the tuning. But for most people the dealership will just void everything & using a good stand alone will be more beneficial, if they have qualified techs.

Jamielle@FP 03-19-2013 03:08 PM

We've done quite a few 370z's with the Stillen SC, we love it. I find that after doing the SC the car feels like it has a V8 instead of the V6, great power gain and driveability.

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSC_5137.jpg

elperuano 03-19-2013 03:53 PM

Wow, FP chiming in? On Stillen and not there Greddy TT kit? How's Sharif doing?

Voice59 03-19-2013 04:00 PM

Honestly, if I can find a good SC kit that can get me to 500whp reliably..I think I'm going to that route. I know once I achieve my goal I'm going to become complacent and want more...but I gotta draw the line somewhere.. LOL.

If I can't then I'll go the twin turbo route. You guys have been a tremendous help..

As for now I think I'm going to look into the GTM's SC packages... and possibly figure out (between deployments) how to get my car to ATL to Z1.

Thanks again guys...

If you have any more advice/suggestions... I'm all ears.

theDreamer 03-19-2013 04:05 PM

For transport I would shop around, but speak with the shop you are going to use.
Many have connections or deal with transport companies a lot as people like to ship cars to them. Might be able to get a good deal & know the shop trusts them to transport your car.

elperuano 03-19-2013 04:06 PM

Ur right about the wanting more. I'm at 540. 4 months after it don't even feel the same. I remember the first day I was riding around feelin like a million bucks hittin max boost.

Fast forward few months and its the same car but I'm used to it and now I want more.

Mr.Squeeze 03-19-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59 (Post 2221901)
Honestly, if I can find a good SC kit that can get me to 500whp reliably..I think I'm going to that route. I know once I achieve my goal I'm going to become complacent and want more...but I gotta draw the line somewhere.. LOL.

If I can't then I'll go the twin turbo route. You guys have been a tremendous help..

As for now I think I'm going to look into the GTM's SC packages... and possibly figure out (between deployments) how to get my car to ATL to Z1.

Thanks again guys...

If you have any more advice/suggestions... I'm all ears.

Looking at the GTM SC packages is the right move for you.

Mr.Squeeze 03-19-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221914)
Ur right about the wanting more. I'm at 540. 4 months after it don't even feel the same. I remember the first day I was riding around feelin like a million bucks hittin max boost.

Fast forward few months and its the same car but I'm used to it and now I want more.



Lol trust me I know the feeling :tup:

Jamielle@FP 03-19-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221883)
Wow, FP chiming in? On Stillen and not there Greddy TT kit? How's Sharif doing?

Everything is going great here! He asked about the Stillen SC so I just gave my feedback lol. The Greddy TT kit always makes more power than the SC but I understand the decision to go with the SC as its quite a bit cheaper and can make mid 400s.

I think the new hotness for turbo kits however will be the Fast Intentions!

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/DSC_1334.jpg

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/DSC_1341.jpg

Voice59 03-19-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2221914)
Ur right about the wanting more. I'm at 540. 4 months after it don't even feel the same. I remember the first day I was riding around feelin like a million bucks hittin max boost.

Fast forward few months and its the same car but I'm used to it and now I want more.

lol...exactly. If I keep trying to make an already fast car faster I'll never stop. Plus after I get the Z to a respectable range I want to purchase a more luxury oriented vehicle. I was thinking a CTS V.

Baer383 03-19-2013 05:39 PM

500 rwhp is the sweet spot for these cars,I only had 470 rwhp on my 2010 and yes I wanted more ,then I traded it in and put the same kit and got 516 rwhp and I could get more if I wanted it but my car is fast enough and b/c the SC's power is just like stock just higher it is very perdicable it is just like driving a powerful V8.

Voice59 03-19-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2222049)
500 rwhp is the sweet spot for these cars,I only had 470 rwhp on my 2010 and yes I wanted more ,then I traded it in and put the same kit and got 516 rwhp and I could get more if I wanted it but my car is fast enough and b/c the SC's power is just like stock just higher it is very perdicable it is just like driving a powerful V8.

That's good news man. Thanks.

Realale 03-19-2013 06:27 PM

I too have been thinking of the Stillen SC. I would love to jump on the Fast Intention TT kit since I'm not far from Tony's shop. The one big thing that pushes me to the Stillen SC is the 50 state CARB legal. I'm in Cali so that's a huge selling point for me.


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