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Nixlimited 02-26-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2185139)
I will say this much I have had it on my car since July of last year and my down shifts still seems smooth when down shifting. I use rev match all the time it may use the computer to compute speeds .

I will also say and its s fact my car is much faster with the 3.3 than the 3.7 its perfect for my power level . With the shorter gears was shifting way to much and traction is much improved in my opinion any Z over 550 whp .

That's good to hear. I totally agree regarding the better match of long gears with FI, particularly turbos. On my last turbo car, the short gearing was my #1 complaint. We should try to make a spreadsheet just to see what the effect is. My guess is that it is not that significant if you aren't having serious issues.

Where did you source your final drive gears?

Mr.Squeeze 02-26-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2185467)
That's good to hear. I totally agree regarding the better match of long gears with FI, particularly turbos. On my last turbo car, the short gearing was my #1 complaint. We should try to make a spreadsheet just to see what the effect is. My guess is that it is not that significant if you aren't having serious issues.

Where did you source your final drive gears?

I still think even with the 3.3 the lower gears are still to short 1-2, I however do love 3-4 gear now.

I got the whole differential from a local junk yard for $200. I plan on getting another one from them just rebuild and put a good LSD in it.

If you cant find any at a local junk yard look on Ebay.

phunk 02-26-2013 03:57 PM

Can anyone with 500+ rwhp comment on traction improvements by only changing from the factory LSD to an aftermarket LSD? As far as just pure straight line traction, I wonder how much can be unlocked in the diff. The way my tail wags around, I dont think I am getting any one-wheel action in a straight line, but it will often go one-wheel on me if I am trying to do donuts.

Nixlimited 02-26-2013 04:21 PM

Here is a comparison chart between stock 3.692 and 3.3 ... if my math is correct.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8...761d32ac_b.jpg

Nixlimited 02-26-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2185501)
I got the whole differential from a local junk yard for $200. I plan on getting another one from them just rebuild and put a good LSD in it.

What car was the diff off of? A 370Z? Just curious where the new gears come from. Sorry if I missed this above.

esfourteen 02-26-2013 04:27 PM

I run the 3.53 with a Quaife ATB LSD, cruise and SRM work perfect (about 100rpm off). I'd agree that over 500whp the 3.3 FD is probably best, but the SRM will be ~300-400rpm off (same as going to 4.08) and as Squeeze mentioned, cruise won't work.

Nixlimited 02-26-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2185545)
I run the 3.53 with a Quaife ATB LSD, cruise and SRM work perfect (about 100rpm off). I'd agree that over 500whp the 3.3 FD is probably best, but the SRM will be ~300-400rpm off (same as going to 4.08) and as Squeeze mentioned, cruise won't work.

Why does cruise not work? Is it because of the speed/rpm mismatch? I would think the computer would just hold a speed.

Esforteen - where did you get your setup and would you recommend it?

Zat_Zuma 02-26-2013 04:38 PM

From my experience and going from a 3.7, 4.08 and 3.9 ratios(why you ask? ..long story) that if your concerned about the few extra RPM needed for a downshift....... blip the throttle after Rev match has done it's thing.

Phunk: the stock LSD is a piece of crap. I use a Cusco RS 1.5 80% and when it locks it locks well. But it is noisy on low speed turns and likes to clunk at low speeds.
Beware though, as it will snap rear axles with drag radials.

TerribleONE 02-26-2013 05:23 PM

I want to do this but I cant see my OSG lsd fitting in the new pumpkin..

esfourteen 02-26-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2185554)
Why does cruise not work? Is it because of the speed/rpm mismatch? I would think the computer would just hold a speed.

Esforteen - where did you get your setup and would you recommend it?

I put it together myself: used 350z open diff, quaife ATB LSD for an open diff, new bearings, seals, and shims from nissan. It took about 4 hours to put it together and properly shim the diff, if you're mechanically inclined It's a fun project. I love this setup, but going for 600whp I could probably use more gear lol.

As for the cruise control with the 3.3, I believe the issue is related to the RPM's being off since Squeeze mentioned cruise works in 5th gear for him.

Mr.Squeeze 02-27-2013 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2185537)
What car was the diff off of? A 370Z? Just curious where the new gears come from. Sorry if I missed this above.

My rear diff came from a 06 G35 automatic, you can use a G35/350 doesn't matter as long as its from a auto. The automatic cars are the only ones that come with a 3.3 final drive. This is a direct swap you take out your diff and swap in the other one.





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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2185554)
Why does cruise not work? Is it because of the speed/rpm mismatch? I would think the computer would just hold a speed.


I think it has to do with the speed being off for cruise to work in 6 gear.


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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2185622)
I want to do this but I cant see my OSG lsd fitting in the new pumpkin..

If you have a OSG LSD already and it's for a manual car it wont work in the automatic diff. The pumpkin housing are the same it's the internals that are different ring and pinion.

Mr.Squeeze 02-27-2013 07:46 AM

If anyone wants a rear diff I spoke to my friend that works at the junk yard where I got my from and you could order one and have it shipped.

PM me for details in your interested .

TerribleONE 02-27-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2186611)
If anyone wants a rear diff I spoke to my friend that works at the junk yard where I got my from and you could order one and have it shipped.

PM me for details in your interested .

I wanna take you up on this so bad. But have no desire to try and sell this LSD and find another one..

Nixlimited 02-27-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2187652)
I wanna take you up on this so bad. But have no desire to try and sell this LSD and find another one..

Yeah. I think 3.3 is going to be too low for me. I do use cruise in 6th. I'm lazy on road trips!

Mr.Squeeze 02-28-2013 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2187652)
I wanna take you up on this so bad. But have no desire to try and sell this LSD and find another one..

You can always keep your LSD and get 3.53 diff it will fit that.




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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2188032)
Yeah. I think 3.3 is going to be too low for me. I do use cruise in 6th. I'm lazy on road trips!


I can see this being a problem ,but I wouldn't really switch to the 3.3 on stock block unless I was pushing at least 525whp. I think anything lower than that its a waste my low boost spring pressure is 600whp I need it .


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