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Hermitns 06-04-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2347803)
Your point was completely wrong. Congratulations, you've seen a lot of cars. You're my hero. The shop didn't offer this as a custom build. It's a kit. They took his money and gave him nothing for six months. In no world is this ok. And you come in here trying to say it's ok because they make more money on other builds, so the OP can get his kit whenever they get around to it?

The point of the cars listing is that you chose to jab me because I saw "cool cars". Where do you see in ANY of the posts that VSR offered it as a mailorder kit? Someone in the thread stated VSR only does IN HOUSE INSTALLS and asked about the cost of auto shipping. AGAIN, without knowing the content of the calls between them we can only speculate. As for your ASSUMPTION "it's a kit"
read the following completely...in the last paragraph it CLEARLY STATES THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY IN HOUSE BUILD. ANYTHING related to this thread and customer service is between VSR and 370 ONLY regardless of what anyone believes about business 101 or customer service.

S&R 350z / 370z / G35 / G37 HR Single Turbo Kit

Thank you very much

Chuck33079 06-04-2013 01:47 PM

You decided to chime in with some halfass explanation thet they're busy working on other cars, and that it probably wasn't an expensive enough build to warrant their full attention. It's obviously not "exclusively in house" if they're shipping a kit to the OP, now is it? They sold him a product and took his money. It's not unreasonable for him to expect the actual product to arrive at some point. You think this is ok for a business. I completely disagree.

Hermitns 06-04-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2347881)
You decided to chime in with some halfass explanation thet they're busy working on other cars, and that it probably wasn't an expensive enough build to warrant their full attention. It's obviously not "exclusively in house" if they're shipping a kit to the OP, now is it? They sold him a product and took his money. It's not unreasonable for him to expect the actual product to arrive at some point. You think this is ok for a business. I completely disagree.

Like a bulldog keep attacking without knowing the whole scope. Do you read every word or just focus on that which makes your blood boil. I THOUGHT I tried to look at BOTH sides of the transaction and I NEVER said this was a good business practice. I even went thru the original posts and seperated out the specifics as written. MAYBE, just MAYBE 370 was persistent or persuesive enough to get VSR to ship a kit. AGAIN, we don't know, AGAIN you focus on a single aspect. MAYBE 370 (seeing as he has $$$ in his car and a tuner standing by) was looking at a potential business deal to buy kits and install them in his area. WE DON'T KNOW HOWEVER if it wasn't on the shelf, ready to ship kit, in stock in the warehouse, then sometimes sh1t happens. and sometimes when a supplier repeatedly stalls your order, week after week, you gotta break target lock, change your direction and give up on this particular business.
All this being said, I wonder what the comments here are gonna be if this kit puts up 550+ RWHP? Will it THEN have been worth the wait? The unsatisfactory customer service? Will others then BEG VSR to ship kits although it's listed as an IN HOUSE EXCLUSIVE? We'll have to wait and see won't we.

Hermitns 06-04-2013 02:09 PM

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as to business practices for big profit...I wonder if Chip Foose still repairs door dings and sprays basic acrylic paints?

Chuck33079 06-04-2013 02:10 PM

Ok, guy. You win. I focused too much on the whole "pay someone for something and only get a tiny part of it" part. It obviously wasn't supposed to take six months, because if it was the OP would not be surprised by it.

elperuano 06-04-2013 02:17 PM

Lol this guy is hilarious. No wonder nothing amazes me anymore.

Seems like he works for the shop or has some affiliation with the shop. The response are absolutely hilarious.

elperuano 06-04-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermitns (Post 2347798)
Just making a point here chuck. As for "cool cars" I bet I've seen more and rarer in my 50 years than you have. Grew up in Detroit, Dads daily driver was a 64 GTO that was balanced and blueprinted by Delorean, street raced and drag strip until Chevy put big money into the 427 factory teams. Ever seen an original 53 vette with the FACTORY V-8 vin experimental #004. etc etc.
you want something now, get it off the shelf, you want something the shop doesn't usually do? You gotta wait. Or cancel your order and go the way "everyone else" has. Then you can be a "me-too" at the car shows.

:roflpuke2: not one of these guys that seems he needs to prove something on the intranet... :bowrofl:

NitrousZ34 06-04-2013 07:10 PM

I would have gotten a refund a long time ago. Sounds like they're just yanking your chain bro

Hermitns 06-05-2013 07:50 AM

I may be a bit more patient having gone thru a custom motorcycle phase and yes having been burned by both wait time and quality concerns. I'd also like to state that economics 101 trumps business 101 EVERY TIME. Supply and demand. If I have it and you want it bad enough, I can treat you like a hooker and you'll still bring me your money.

SRperformance 06-05-2013 10:06 AM

The customer is our first priority and has been kept in the loop. The kit was held up by the fabricator. Since the 370z application started to pick up, we needed to make jigs for all of the piping for orders to be shipped. Usually we do everything with the car here. Initially we used a outside fabricator and then recently completed the process of bringing on a inhouse fabricator. A few more parts from the powdercoater and he will have all of his stuff. The owner of VSR has even arranged to fly out personally to help with the install.

fonzo179 06-05-2013 11:02 AM

Just wanted to say good, bad or ugly I appreciate the input from the FI community here in this forum. Before, I knew little to nothing about SC, TT, Single Turbo or whatever for the Z. But i've learned so much in such a short time. Thanks guys!

Getting so close to my (Polished) Stillen Supercharger/Headers and Berk HFC's!!! :excited::excited::excited: I feel like it's 1997 again and I'm about to get Goldeneye 007 from the video game store :icon17:

We have a couple of Viper V12s here in Fargo, and quite a few Cobras licking their chops - anxious to see what the Z is capable of! So ready for this! #ProjectSnakeEater179

Chuck33079 06-05-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzo179 (Post 2349034)
Before, I knew little to nothing about SC, TT, Single Turbo or whatever for the Z. But i've learned so much in such a short time. Thanks guys!

Getting so close to my (Polished) Stillen Supercharger/Headers and Berk HFC's!!!

In this thread alone there's a pretty good reason why Stillen isn't the answer to pretty much any question.

G37Sam 06-05-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzo179 (Post 2349034)
I knew little to nothing about SC, TT, Single Turbo or whatever for the Z. But i've learned so much in such a short time. Thanks guys!

Getting so close to my (Polished) Stillen Supercharger/Headers and Berk HFC's!!! :excited::excited::excited:

You clearly still have a bit of learning to do :p

fonzo179 06-05-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 2349066)
You clearly still have a bit of learning to do :p

:icon17: I see where you guys are coming from and a appreciate the input! For me, a lot of my mods were looked down upon before I got them. But they haven't given me any issue throughout the 47K+ miles I've had my Z.

People's bad experiences never spook me away because the lobotomy I got prevents such things :tup: and quiets the voices :icon17: I was just trying to credit you guys for your contributions.

Chuck33079 06-05-2013 11:26 AM

For about the same cost as the Stillen, gtm's mhi turbo kit will be a better performer. Stillens kit is by far the worst option for fi on a 370. There's hours of reading here on why. I won't derail this thread into a stillen vs the world anymore. But do some more research. Unless you need a CARB cert, there's no reason to go stillen.


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