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2SOONJR 03-30-2015 09:40 PM

Good to know. I'm gonna start posting in some of your threads cuz I don't wanna throw of this tread too much. It was a long 300 pages, don't wanna fill it with more talks of off topic. Although, sometimes "off topic" conversations can be informative to the thread... sometimes.

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F.I. Inc. 03-31-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3154749)
Me. I still have the trap speed and stock engine power record :tup:.. so I am not too sad about getting knocked off by an autopilot :)

But next time they will go a lot quicker/faster, so I have to get back out there soon.

You crack me up CJ!

Infamous 03-31-2015 02:01 PM

Will you be making a kit for the q50s rwd sedan? (; I might be driving home with one tonight.

KratikosG37 03-31-2015 09:01 PM

http://youtu.be/WHglpvr0y_I

@4:29 world stock block record is 660whp?

Good luck with 700whp tho looking forward to seeing the dyno chart.:)

djtodd 03-31-2015 09:20 PM

They'll get it :)


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warpeacelove 04-01-2015 10:54 PM

Fast Intentions and countless others can acquire an used AWD G37 or damaged one and use it to built a product for the AWD platform. All I have been hearing is excuses from these companies.

If GTM did right by their consumers these companies would have had to step up there game to stay relevant.

Leroydsouza 04-02-2015 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3157118)
Fast Intentions and countless others can acquire an used AWD G37 or damaged one and use it to built a product for the AWD platform. All I have been hearing is excuses from these companies.

If GTM did right by their consumers these companies would have had to step up there game to stay relevant.

"Building" a twin turbo is not picking up twin turbos and shoving it down the engine.

There goes enough in R&D and god knows what all.
Fast Intentions is a business not a charity, If they see a market for it, I am pretty sure they would have done it already. Be aware that even the 370z market is not big itself, Let alone the fact that not all of that market even goes forced induction.
Fast Intentions is one of those companies who have been constantly getting better and better.

I am sure they have their own reasons for not building one yet.
And why would they give you excuses ? Unless they owe you something and it is your right to get a TT Kit From FI whether they have it or not ?
Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa????????

:stirthepot:

2SOONJR 04-02-2015 12:27 AM

R&D baby, it takes time for quality. Don't get your panties in a bunch cuz a companies not moving fast enough for your liking. Besides, Leroy nailed it, the market for the awd g37 isn't bigger than the 370z market and FI is putting in serious hours making sure this thing is gonna put the Z in beast mode without blowing up an engine. I'd rather wait for quality than rush into something and get ******. The bottom line about GTM is that they didn't do right by their customers and screwed a lot of people over in the end.

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I'm pretty sure Tony already said FI has plans for the G in this thread...

m3chhawk 04-02-2015 09:31 AM

FI isn't a big operation. They are handling their business perfectly and moving at a scale and pace they are comfortable with. They are moving vertically in select markets and platforms which is exactly what they should be doing.

Just ask GTM what happens when you move too fast horizontally and stretch beyond your resources. GTM didn't go under because they were crooked. They went under because they did the exact opposite of what FI is doing. Doing wrong by their customers was a byproduct.

conmam 04-02-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 3157392)
FI isn't a big operation. They are handling their business perfectly and moving at a scale and pace they are comfortable with. They are moving vertically in select markets and platforms which is exactly what they should be doing.

Just ask GTM what happens when you move too fast horizontally and stretch beyond your resources. GTM didn't go under because they were crooked. They went under because they did the exact opposite of what FI is doing. Doing wrong by their customers was a byproduct.

I dealt with GTM in the past for over 2 years. If Sam never existed, it is highly probable that GTM is still around with reputable products. To be honest, some of their products are pretty damn good. Sam screwed up everything badly and drove GTM down to the abyss just because of his severe greed and terribly poor customer relation skill. What a shame. I was very lucky not to deposit any money into their TT group buy.

Well, that was the past. Now, I am ready to talk to Tony and see him in the next few weeks about a complete 500whp TT street set up.

Super Werty 04-02-2015 01:34 PM

Anyone running turbo blankets?

KratikosG37 04-02-2015 01:38 PM

What sadness me is the fact if something happens to my turbo kit I would

A: Have someone custom make a part. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

B: Trash the kit and purchase another one. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

GTM kit is nice and still has super low miles, but unless it's a turbo issue i'm **** out of luck.

BTW anyone know where I can get new GTM manifolds? Just in case mine crack.

Hotrodz 04-02-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 3157663)
Anyone running turbo blankets?

Nobody that I no of...

djtodd 04-02-2015 05:17 PM

*****Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here*****
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3157118)
Fast Intentions and countless others can acquire an used AWD G37 or damaged one and use it to built a product for the AWD platform. All I have been hearing is excuses from these companies.

If GTM did right by their consumers these companies would have had to step up there game to stay relevant.


At the risk of feeding the trolls, I have to respond.

First, I don't know why you even bring up gtm in this thread. It's uncalled for and frankly, pointless. I don't think Tony and Dan have ever based their business decisions on what Sam, or anyone else, did.

Second, if the demand were there, in sure they would look into the awd g market (a small slice of an already small market?!) But...they surely wouldn't buy a wrecked car to test it in. They would do it properly just like they did for the 370. Would you want to buy a kit that wasn't thoroughly tested on the road? Tony and Dan and company have the reputation they have, because they precisely avoid that type of half-cocked methodology.

It's very easy to come on here and discuss how fi or others should spend their money. Lots of keyboard heroes. Considering the cost of developing a kit properly, I doubt they could sell enough awd kits to break even.


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2SOONJR 04-02-2015 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KratikosG37 (Post 3157667)
BTW anyone know where I can get new GTM manifolds? Just in case mine crack.

Ask warpeacelove, he seems to be selling GTM parts, mainly SC but he might be able to point you in the right direction. Otherwise start a thread in wanted, these kinds of questions are intended for that part of the forum.

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jwick 04-02-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 3157663)
Anyone running turbo blankets?


I run one but I'm not running a FI TT kit

2SOONJR 04-03-2015 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 3157663)
Anyone running turbo blankets?

I'm not sure what size you would need but I'm sure someone that makes them like ptp would be able to get you one that fits well, just give them a call or shoot em an email. I'll probably get a pair, they have benefits such as lowering the temps of the engine bay and the radiant temps around the turbo, thus lowering the chance of a failure, while retaining the maximum heat for the greatest amount of expansive gas and a more responsive boost.
You can read up on them here.
http://ptpturboblankets.com/why_turbo_blankets.php

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Hotrodz 04-03-2015 03:08 PM

I see turbo blankets used more on the single turbo builds than with twins.

2SOONJR 04-03-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3158809)
I see turbo blankets used more on the single turbo builds than with twins.

Is there more benefit one way or the other? Besides boost ranges, I always thought a turbo was a turbo, big or small. But I'm no Yoda.

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Hotrodz 04-03-2015 11:41 PM

I don't have an good educated answer for you other than my observation on reading all the boosted threads and all the folks I know with twins don't have them. I would surmise that because of the size of the single turbo and as you stated above there are more benefits to single turbo.

jwick 04-04-2015 12:16 AM

I still believe that bagged is better than not bagged. However; if you aren't concerned about heat issues than the benefits are minimal.

djtodd 04-04-2015 07:10 AM

They will benefit from them, but top/bottom mount setups will benefit more. There's more inherent enthalpy loss in a setup that places the turbo farther away as opposed to one that keeps them tucked up close.


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jwick 04-04-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by djtodd (Post 3159386)
They will benefit from them, but top/bottom mount setups will benefit more. There's more inherent enthalpy loss in a setup that places the turbo farther away as opposed to one that keeps them tucked up close.


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I'm more concerned about direct line of site melting issues from the insane heat generated from the hot side. On a factory NA car there is minimal shielding because they didn't design for turbo levels of heat. I didn't bag for any performance reasons. Of course I went full retard on heat management all over my build. :rofl2:

conmam 04-04-2015 10:55 AM

For Fast intention TT set up, I would go with their provided heat shield and ceramic coat both the exhaust manifolds + the turbines.

jwick 04-04-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 3159509)
For Fast intention TT set up, I would go with their provided heat shield and ceramic coat both the exhaust manifolds + the turbines.


Didn't realize they provided a heat shield. That'll definitely help. All you need to do is break line of site.

Ceramic coating is not going to help much. Wrap is better. A buddy has all his piping ceramic coated and after two years you can definitely start seeing that heat is doing damage to connectors and such. Went ahead and header wrapped the hot side to prevent any further damage.

2SOONJR 04-04-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3159492)
I'm more concerned about direct line of site melting issues from the insane heat generated from the hot side. On a factory NA car there is minimal shielding because they didn't design for turbo levels of heat. I didn't bag for any performance reasons. Of course I went full retard on heat management all over my build. :rofl2:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...24406470ab.jpg

Yeah I'm more concerned about hot spots on the engine more than performance. A big reason for gasket failure is hot spots I've read. Also, everything else close would be more subject to melting.

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 3159509)
For Fast intention TT set up, I would go with their provided heat shield and ceramic coat both the exhaust manifolds + the turbines.

I'd still grab all of it. Ceramic coat and bag em. Especially considering the location of the turbos. This isn't just FI's kit either, most the kits out there have the turbo running just off the manifold but the Z turbos are a bit tucked away under everything, giving me more reason to grab a bag.

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Super Werty 04-04-2015 12:33 PM

I know when I go boosted I will do ceramic and bags. I prefer overkill.

conmam 04-04-2015 06:49 PM

Extra heat shortens your engine's life and kills your components underneath the hood prematurely, particularly the wiring harnesses.

The 370Z is engine compartment, for some reason, is notorious for trapping heat. That is one of the major causes for high oil temp. One of my colleague has a 2013 EX37. Same exact engine set up, same exact radiator capacity and same exact fan temperature PCM codings ON/OFF durations as the factory 370Z.

Even on a real hot day for the EX37, on normal stop and go and occasionally hard drivings , the oil temp never went above 220F, where as my Z in the same condition can shoot over 240F easily. I am comparing both without oil coolers as they came originally.

So, TT the 370Z makes it very vital to keep the hood temp as low as you can. In addition to ceramic coating, I probably have to think about ventilating the hood somehow, or install a good carbon fiber one with nice ventilation built in.

conmam 04-04-2015 07:37 PM

So I have question. Can someone kindly let me know who make high quality carbon fiber hoods out there for the 370Z. I don't mind spending up to $1500 for the hood but it needs to be top quality, meaning perfect fitment like OEM with ventilation and finest quality material..... Thank you.

djtodd 04-04-2015 07:39 PM

There is no dry carbon fiber vented hood out there that I know of. That's precisely the reason I bought a spare oem hood and modified it. Lighter than any vented hood on the nsrket


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djtodd 04-04-2015 07:41 PM

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...3e55081073.jpg


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GaleForce 04-04-2015 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 3159799)
So I have question. Can someone kindly let me know who make high quality carbon fiber hoods out there for the 370Z. I don't mind spending up to $1500 for the hood but it needs to be top quality, meaning perfect fitment like OEM with ventilation and finest quality material..... Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtodd (Post 3159802)
There is no dry carbon fiber vented hood out there that I know of. That's precisely the reason I bought a spare oem hood and modified it. Lighter than any vented hood on the nsrket


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The Varis VSDC hood is the closest thing to a vented dry carbonfiber hood available for the 370z but no where near $1500.

cycy89 04-04-2015 08:16 PM

Seibon.

djtodd 04-04-2015 08:18 PM

They don't make a dry vented. Theirs are all wet layup and heavier than stock. Of course if you don't care about that they do have good fitment and finish generally


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Eclipz 04-05-2015 08:05 PM

I believe amuse has a dry carbon vented hood, but it's probably 4-5x more than $1500. Not worth it unless you are made of gold.

http://www.370ztune.com/product.html...carbon&id=1613

and here is Varis VSDC in case you were wondering

http://www.370ztune.com/product.html..._carbon&id=894

Hotrodz 04-05-2015 08:46 PM

I didn't weigh my Fugimura hood, but just in holding them both during the install I could not tell any noticeable difference. Unless you are going to make the Z a dedicate race car I'm not sure the weight difference is that big a deal in a hood at the whp we are running. The biggest deal is to get heat out of the engine bay in an efficient manner.

jwick 04-05-2015 08:52 PM

*****Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here*****
 
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3160424)
I didn't weigh my Fugimura hood, but just in holding them both during the install I could not tell any noticeable difference. Unless you are going to make the Z a dedicate race car I'm not sure the weight difference is that big a deal in a hood at the whp we are running. The biggest deal is to get heat out of the engine bay in an efficient manner.


True. Most guys upgrade to 20" wheels and that has a much bigger impact on performance than the weight a hood would

cycy89 04-05-2015 09:10 PM

Go check out vented hood thread. This is my hood. Seibon. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...20134a8e23.jpg

theDreamer 04-06-2015 11:01 AM

Any dry CF hood will be 2k+ as you see with the JDM hoods being well over that most of the time.
If you do not care to much about weight then Seibon has pretty good quality, I would add in an extra layer of clear or completely paint it as their clear sucks. Modding the OEM hood is a great option, either custom or contact CarbonSignal for their add on hood vents.

I just did a search, for even Seibon's dry CF 370z hood with zero vents (OEM copy) it is $1,800 before shipping.

Drew303 04-06-2015 11:34 AM

can anyone tell me the current wait time for this kit? I have emailed fast intentions as well as asked them on instagram but I cant seem to get a response.


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