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cycy89 05-15-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 2819144)
From what Josh told me...10 psi!

So he was pushing probably around 550hp?
I'd be scared to push that hard first time on the track after boost, that's A LOT to get used to!

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djtodd 05-15-2014 07:59 AM

Actually 10 is about 600. I ran 10psi on the first day, and 13 for a couple sessions on the second day.

cycy89 05-15-2014 08:22 AM

I was already killing mustangs and porsches on the track with Street tires, can't wait to see what she can do on boost with track tires!

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SgtGoldy 05-16-2014 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 2819458)
I was already killing mustangs and porsches on the track with Street tires, can't wait to see what she can do on boost with track tires!

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Your competition are now exotics/modded muscle :tup:

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roplusbee 05-18-2014 05:54 PM

DAMN! That vid is not fair dude. Posting things like that make those of us that do not have one to crunch numbers unnecessarily.

"In my most self convincing voice"........I am happy with my Greddy Kit and set-up. I am only a few parts (grand) away from a complete monster. The F.I. Kit would be awesome, but would cause a complete budget overhaul in my case...........you don't need it, you want it.

You guys are mean and you know it...........that said, that **** is awesome SUN!

UNKNOWN_370 05-18-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtodd (Post 2818508)
Hey guys (and girls? :))

Thought I would pop in here with a bit of an update.

I put the kit through a bit of a torture test this weekend at Road Atlanta with Global Time Attack.

Two days of absolutely thrashing the **** out of it. Two sessions were in 90+ degree heat with high humidity.

...And it didn't miss a beat. Ran like a top. I have to admit, beforehand I was concerned with what oil and water temps I would see, but it never broke a sweat. Oil never got over 220ish, and water was never above the middle of the range. As background, I have the Mishi rad and FI 34 row oil cooler.

Anyway long story short: I had a blast. The car absolutely hauled ***, and behaved perfectly. I spent most of the time getting accustomed to all the additional power, trying to find the limits, and building confidence. I definitely need more aero now. Coming down the back stretch at 170ish, the rear is seriously squirrely under braking. I ran with the same RE11's that I've had on the car for some time. They have 20+ heat cycles, so they are definitely past it, but I was still pleasantly pleased with overall traction and balance. Still relatively neutral. Can't say enough good things about the OS giken lsd, although the fluid was totally cooked when I changed it yesterday.

One session was in the wet and that was...interesting? Terrifying? Given you can make it step out rather easily in the dry, it was a handful in the wet. Turn 12 was definitely a "pucker" moment for sure.

I put together a quick clip for you're viewing/listening pleasure. Still waiting on my buddy's to get my some outside-the-car video. We took 2 photo/video guys with us, so should have some good footage.

In the meantime, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEEQIH0orFA

Very nice control over the Z. That's how it's done. Car reviewers in the past have looked like amateurs on video. :tiphat:

esfourteen 05-18-2014 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2824151)
DAMN! That vid is not fair dude. Posting things like that make those of us that do not have one to crunch numbers unnecessarily.

"In my most self convincing voice"........I am happy with my Greddy Kit and set-up. I am only a few parts (grand) away from a complete monster. The F.I. Kit would be awesome, but would cause a complete budget overhaul in my case...........you don't need it, you want it.

You guys are mean and you know it...........that said, that **** is awesome SUN!

the FI kit is amazing, but why would you consider switching kits? phunk has already made 586 at 9psi on e85 with the greddy kit, that kit can do 700whp on a built block no question

roplusbee 05-18-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2824186)
the FI kit is amazing, but why would you consider switching kits? phunk has already made 586 at 9psi on e85 with the greddy kit, that kit can do 700whp on a built block no question

Very true, but it is so tempting........

I am currently pushing 534 to the wheels and I still have to do the S2 fuel system upgrade as well as forged internals. In the back of my mind, I know that it is unnecessary. But damn.........

djtodd 05-22-2014 08:44 PM

Overbuilding a fuel system is never a bad thing :)

phunk 05-22-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtodd (Post 2830203)
Overbuilding a fuel system is never a bad thing :)

wiser words have never been spoken! :happydance:

Nixlimited 05-23-2014 02:02 PM

Quick question to my TT compatriots. My system, as below, uses the HTA2868 turbos and I have no cats and a 2.5" FI exhaust. My engine is also fairly fresh--just 5100 miles.

I am getting some fairly substantial blue smoke at times while driving the car. I assume by color and smell, that it is oil being burned. It seems to happen mostly when slowing down while in gear (i.e. while pulling a lot of vacuum) and seems to be more prevalent when the car is cold than warm, though today it happened after a quick jaunt in traffic with the car completely warmed up and very little boost. It's never happened when I start the car up, and it doesn't happen when the car idles. I also assume the amount of smoke may be a bit misleading due to the vacuum trap behind the car while it is moving causing it to build up.

I know to some extent, having no cats and such, I will get less refined exhaust gas. I have dealt with that before. However, I am concerned about the source of the oil being burnt. If it only happened when cold, I would think, maybe blowby as things warm up. But I am also curious whether I may have a bad turbo seal.

In any event, I was hoping to see whether anyone running TTs and no cats has similar experience. If not, then I may have an issue unique to my car. If so, then I may need to just consider some downstream cats and catch-cans.

N0SL3N 05-23-2014 03:02 PM

It seems like it could be a blown seal in the turbo, stuck PCV valve or bad valve seals.

However I had this same problem with my dad's Porsche and it turns out that it was just too much oil in the engine.

Nixlimited 05-23-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N0SL3N (Post 2831310)
It seems like it could be a blown seal in the turbo, stuck PCV valve or bad valve seals.

However I had this same problem with my dad's Porsche and it turns out that it was just too much oil in the engine.

I'll check the oil level today just to make sure it's not too high or too low.

Rid3_FaM0uS 05-24-2014 03:40 PM

My turbo is smoking and it's brand new. The shaft has normal play in it so is one of my seals blown?
A. The term "blown seal" is widely used to describe a turbo that has oil coming out of it. In reality a turbocharger seal cannot become damaged until the freeplay of the shaft has increased to the point where the blades of the turbocharger have been rubbing against the housings. Blade contact usually requires more than .035" of side to side movement of the shaft. In some cases it is even possible to rub the blades and still not damage the seals.
If the turbo is new and the shaft isn't loose and bouncing off the housings, but oil is coming out of it chances are you can correct the problem without even taking the turbo back off the car.

The seals within the turbo are not meant to hold back a bearing housing that has become full of oil. They are designed to sling the oil mist and spray within the bearing housing away from the point where the shaft comes out each end. If the bearing housing becomes full of oil it will ooze out past even brand new seal rings.

The oil should freely drain out of the bearing housing as quickly as the engine supplies it. This is why the drain tube is so much larger than the supply tube. Gravity is the only force moving the oil out of the turbocharger. Any slight restriction in the oil drain tube, even a small silicone dingle berry, can slightly impede the draining of the oil and cause oil to back up into the bearing housing.

The crankcase vents are the second largest cause of oil loss from a good condition turbocharger. The seals in the turbocharger were designed with expectation that the pressure inside the compressor and turbine housing will always be greater than the pressure in the bearing housing. If this is ever not the case then oil will come out pass the seals. A restricted crankcase vent will cause this to happen. If the amount of ring blowby exceeds the ability of the crank vents to release the pressure positive pressure will build within the crankcase. This pressure within the crankcase can exceed the pressure inside the compressor and turbine housings under some operating conditions resulting in oil being driven pass the seals by the improperly biased pressure gradient across the seal rings. In severe cases it may be necessary to introduce vacuum pumps to deal with crankcase pressure, but these would be very severe high boost applications where even low percentages of blowby produce a high volume of crankcase vent flow.

Here you go nix this would be a good place to start. Pulled this FAQ right from forced performances website

Ninjahero 05-24-2014 10:39 PM

How much longer for the Automatic Transmission upgrade. I can not wait any longer. =\

cycy89 05-24-2014 10:44 PM

You cannot waiting any longer? !?!?! Lol


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Ninjahero 05-25-2014 02:22 AM

I'm seriously about to just order the Twin Turbo kit and have Z car garage in San Jose install it and say screw it. My transmission blows it blows.

cycy89 05-25-2014 03:22 AM

Patience man. It's almost ready I think.

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Ninjahero 05-25-2014 11:37 AM

Telling a 20 year old kid patience for (God Tier Extra Performance for his Z) is like telling a 3 year old kid they can't have candy yet. They both want it now. Lol

rcdash 05-30-2014 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2831231)
Quick question to my TT compatriots. My system, as below, uses the HTA2868 turbos and I have no cats and a 2.5" FI exhaust. My engine is also fairly fresh--just 5100 miles.

I am getting some fairly substantial blue smoke at times while driving the car. I assume by color and smell, that it is oil being burned. It seems to happen mostly when slowing down while in gear (i.e. while pulling a lot of vacuum) and seems to be more prevalent when the car is cold than warm, though today it happened after a quick jaunt in traffic with the car completely warmed up and very little boost. It's never happened when I start the car up, and it doesn't happen when the car idles. I also assume the amount of smoke may be a bit misleading due to the vacuum trap behind the car while it is moving causing it to build up.

I know to some extent, having no cats and such, I will get less refined exhaust gas. I have dealt with that before. However, I am concerned about the source of the oil being burnt. If it only happened when cold, I would think, maybe blowby as things warm up. But I am also curious whether I may have a bad turbo seal.

In any event, I was hoping to see whether anyone running TTs and no cats has similar experience. If not, then I may have an issue unique to my car. If so, then I may need to just consider some downstream cats and catch-cans.

Get a replacement PCV valve ($15), drill it out from behind so it is just an open nipple, put a breather on it, cap off any open hoses and see if the problem goes away. If it does, you have a crankcase ventilation issue and you can reference multiple threads on how best to address. You may continue to see smoke for a few miles as oil in the intake system works its way through.

7419sundat 06-06-2014 07:59 PM

Get a replacement PCV valve ($15), drill it out from behind so it is just an open nipple, put a breather on it, cap off any open hoses and see if the problem goes away. If it does, you have a crankcase ventilation issue and you can reference multiple threads on how best to address. You may continue to see smoke for a few miles as oil in the intake system works its way through.

What does it mean if it made the oil burning issue worse?

rcdash 06-07-2014 05:08 PM

Oil burning as in seeing smoke or in having to add oil? If it is the latter, you need to identify where your oil is going...

1. Past rings -> crankcase (not an issue with open breather)
2. Past valves -> into exhaust (I think unusual in our engines)
3. Past turbo "seal" -> into exhaust (could be excess resistance in return line, increased air intake resistance, decreased exhaust resistance, oil too thin)

Nixlimited 06-07-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcdash (Post 2850518)
Oil burning as in seeing smoke or in having to add oil? If it is the latter, you need to identify where your oil is going...

1. Past rings -> crankcase (not an issue with open breather)
2. Past valves -> into exhaust (I think unusual in our engines)
3. Past turbo "seal" -> into exhaust (could be excess resistance in return line, increased air intake resistance, decreased exhaust resistance, oil too thin)

As in seeing blue smoke under certain conditions.

I am headed up to SpecialtyZ to install CSF's new triple-pass radiator soon so he is going to diagnose the issue during that time. Will report more when I know more.

COSMO 06-07-2014 06:28 PM

I'm curious of what tony opinions are on this issue..

Arrvaxx 06-08-2014 08:58 PM

**Is dying!**

At least I get to drive my son's G35 home from Vegas in a few weeks. Driving a 2013 eco-Sentra is KILLING ME!

Were you able to bring back enough 93 octane from ZdayZ for me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 2811417)
UPDATE,

In the middle of all of this ZDayZ prep and Nixlimited build, I forgot to add some very important names...

022: Benci, 023: Tumbs_81 & 024: Jaafer A. (Non forum member)...We are proud to add you to the list.

000: TerribleONE: (Installed)
001: djtodd (Installed)
002: VSS370z (Shipped)
003: cycy89 (In progress @ FI)
004: dirTy_shoeZ (Installed)
005: faceglide (Installed)
006: RoyaltyB (Layaway: FI booth car @ ZCON)
007: nklear (Installed)
008: mfeinst (Installed)
009: armbar3 (Arriving for install soon)
010: hjo1078 (In progress @ Baker Performance)
011: RDZ Motorsports (Installed)
012: gendr777 (In progress @ JMS Racing)
013: Forged Performance (Installed)
014: HotRodz (Installed)
015: Gasdoc (Delivered)
016: Arrvaxx (In progress @ FI)
017: Seb@SZ (Awaiting Seb to find his wallet)
018: hurahn (Shipping shortly)
019: jaggers (Shipping shortly)
020: Nixlimited (Installed)
021: thetreetopper (Shipping shortly)
022: Benci (Shipping shortly)
023: Tumbs_81 (Install in August)
024: Jaafer A. (Non forum member)


THANK YOU ALL!

Tony


megalapagas 06-10-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djtodd (Post 2818508)
Hey guys (and girls? :))

Thought I would pop in here with a bit of an update.

I put the kit through a bit of a torture test this weekend at Road Atlanta with Global Time Attack.

Two days of absolutely thrashing the **** out of it. Two sessions were in 90+ degree heat with high humidity.

...And it didn't miss a beat. Ran like a top. I have to admit, beforehand I was concerned with what oil and water temps I would see, but it never broke a sweat. Oil never got over 220ish, and water was never above the middle of the range. As background, I have the Mishi rad and FI 34 row oil cooler.

Anyway long story short: I had a blast. The car absolutely hauled ***, and behaved perfectly. I spent most of the time getting accustomed to all the additional power, trying to find the limits, and building confidence. I definitely need more aero now. Coming down the back stretch at 170ish, the rear is seriously squirrely under braking. I ran with the same RE11's that I've had on the car for some time. They have 20+ heat cycles, so they are definitely past it, but I was still pleasantly pleased with overall traction and balance. Still relatively neutral. Can't say enough good things about the OS giken lsd, although the fluid was totally cooked when I changed it yesterday.

One session was in the wet and that was...interesting? Terrifying? Given you can make it step out rather easily in the dry, it was a handful in the wet. Turn 12 was definitely a "pucker" moment for sure.

I put together a quick clip for you're viewing/listening pleasure. Still waiting on my buddy's to get my some outside-the-car video. We took 2 photo/video guys with us, so should have some good footage.

In the meantime, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEEQIH0orFA

Hey djtodd what's yhe name of that particular song in your video??

JWillis72 06-10-2014 12:21 PM

Back in Black

Alkatraz 06-10-2014 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2853389)
Hey djtodd what's yhe name of that particular song in your video??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgnJDJN4VA

Its a disgustingly bastardized version of AC/DC's "Back in Black" from the album of the same name. Which is actually probably older than many of the people on this forum! As well as being the 4th best selling album of all time!

This version was remixed by a nobody who has probably sold nothing! :P

Lucky the car awesome car action made up for the music! :)

megalapagas 06-10-2014 03:29 PM

I know the song is back in black I meant THAT particular song the remix but I found it thx anyways :tup:

djtodd 06-10-2014 03:32 PM

Yeah random remix found in soundcloud :)

cv129 06-14-2014 09:28 AM

Love how your car just eat up the str8, that's a lot of power

F.I. Inc. 06-14-2014 08:07 PM

UPDATE,

025: SpecialtyZ doing their thing! Thanks for the recent order guys.

000: TerribleONE: (Installed)
001: djtodd (Installed)
002: VSS370z (Shipped)
003: cycy89 (In progress @ FI)
004: dirTy_shoeZ (Installed)
005: faceglide (Installed)
006: RoyaltyB (Layaway)
007: nklear (Installed)
008: mfeinst (Installed)
009: armbar3 (Arriving for install soon)
010: hjo1078 (In progress @ Baker Performance)
011: RDZ Motorsports (Installed)
012: gendr777 (In progress @ JMS Racing)
013: Forged Performance (Installed)
014: HotRodz (Installed)
015: Gasdoc (Delivered)
016: Arrvaxx (In progress @ FI)
017: Seb@SZ (Awaiting Seb to find his wallet)
018: hurahn (Shipping shortly)
019: jaggers (Delivered)
020: Nixlimited (Installed)
021: thetreetopper (Delivered)
022: Benci (Delivered)
023: Tumbs_81 (Install in August @ S.Z.)
024: Jaafer A. (Non forum member) (Shipping shortly)
025: SpecialtyZ


THANK YOU ALL!

Tony

Nixlimited 06-15-2014 12:12 AM

I think it's about time for a SoCal F.I. meet-up.

faceglide 06-15-2014 01:09 AM

Drive more, post less. This is where this thread has gone!

Guess it is time for an update:

Hit 7k since installed, second oil change looked great. This will be going in for UOA this week, for sure. Went through everything, nothing leaking, melted, or any other cause for concern! Converted the front over to a NISMO(along with rear), no fitment issues with the NISMO front end or underpan(oem).

I still have not one problem yet, call me lucky or call Tony/Seb/Charles a trio of wizards! But the car has been turn-key, oem reliable 100% of the time I have had it!

I also took the car to a gt500 event at Club Auto here in San Jose, numbers were as advertised; 611/556@12.6psi:driving:This is my everyday boost/timing setting.Was on a Dynojet 224 dyno, for those counting. Was a blast, with an AC cobra owner oogling under my hood:eek:. Was an amazing experience and a great show for the kit indeed. We threw about 100+ cars on the dyno that day, lol(no I do not work there, or would take my car to get worked on there, but they host some great events, $$$$$ though.)

I am so glad to hear about all the new builds and can do nothing but recommend F.I., Specialty Z, CJM and of course e85!

Stay boosted my friends! And congrats to EVERYONE recently getting boosted(not just the F.I. guys)! My boosted Z has quickly become the love of my life. Well, after wife, then kids, the Z beats out the dogs for sure :tup:

VSS370z 06-15-2014 09:07 AM

Took me 2 months after getting F.I. TT kit to get started, did not wanted to cut corners in other areas but finally my build is underway. Can't wait to be part of the force induction family. Happy Father's Day :tiphat:

RKnight 06-23-2014 01:34 AM

Tony the minute I saw this work of art being fitted to an engine in your shop I knew I wanted one. Problem is as you know I still have my 350Z.If you end up making a system that will work on my DE I will be one of the first in line to buy one.

F.I. Inc. 06-23-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKnight (Post 2869718)
Tony the minute I saw this work of art being fitted to an engine in your shop I knew I wanted one. Problem is as you know I still have my 350Z.If you end up making a system that will work on my DE I will be one of the first in line to buy one.

Thank you for the support! As much as I wish I could lie to you and tell you we will have a DE version, that is a lie! That said, if you ever junp in to a 370Z, you know where to find us.

Tony

TopgunZ 06-23-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKnight (Post 2869718)
Tony the minute I saw this work of art being fitted to an engine in your shop I knew I wanted one. Problem is as you know I still have my 350Z.If you end up making a system that will work on my DE I will be one of the first in line to buy one.

Your best bet is to get a 370z. I see guys building their motors on the 350z in goals of breaking 500whp. This was my goal but I opted for the 370 vs a built 350 for several reasons.

Super Werty 07-01-2014 05:56 PM

Faceglide you need to make a speedo acceleration video... Not the swimsuit lol

djtodd 07-01-2014 06:07 PM

*****Fast Intentions "Twin Turbo Kit" is here*****
 
Here's one :)

You can see the speedo fairly well.

http://instagram.com/p/lxtY5DsE02/


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