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Originally Posted by Stj553 Do you have any brake upgrades? As a base non- sport owner myself I'm curious to hear how the brakes hold up with your new found

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Old 01-16-2016, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do you have any brake upgrades? As a base non- sport owner myself I'm curious to hear how the brakes hold up with your new found power.

Not well. I feel like I'm underpowered from a brake stand point and I have the BBK.
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Do you have any brake upgrades? As a base non- sport owner myself I'm curious to hear how the brakes hold up with your new found power.
They are stock. If it wasn't a street car I would rethink that, but I feel they work just fine for what the car is. Hell I run our S2000 on stock Honda brakes still.... lol
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So it's official... I have joined the dark side! Tony offered me all the cookies I could eat! The biggest baddest FI kit is underway! Stay tuned for updates in about 2 months... Sadly I won't be making tx2k this year but it's worth it for the power levels we are going after... These are unprecedented power levels! I can't go into much detail now but there will be updates forth coming. I will end with this teaser in our power levels we will be playing with some big HP GTRs...
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So it's official... I have joined the dark side! Tony offered me all the cookies I could eat! The biggest baddest FI kit is underway! Stay tuned for updates in about 2 months... Sadly I won't be making tx2k this year but it's worth it for the power levels we are going after... These are unprecedented power levels! I can't go into much detail now but there will be updates forth coming. I will end with this teaser in our power levels we will be playing with some big HP GTRs...
You staying with the VVL heads or going with the HR head?
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You staying with the VVL heads or going with the HR head?
I can't say this enough... People underestimate the VVEL system and our heads... Our heads are more efficient than GTR heads and HR heads.... I will be staying with my VVEL.
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I can't say this enough... People underestimate the VVEL system and our heads... Our heads are more efficient than GTR heads and HR heads.... I will be staying with my VVEL.
I totally agree with the efficiency. It is quite good. However, the very big downside is that the VVEL heads are not rebuildable since the VVEL ladders are not to be disassembled per Nissan and therefore if your intake valves clearance are out of specs and/or if you need to replace any of the intake valves components, you are out of luck since Nissan do not sell them separately from the heads. In this case, you must buy the entire head assembly, which is very expensive. Also, the VVEL actuator can be quite costly too.

For normally aspirated motors, it probably can squeeze more HP than any other non-VVEL heads, but really for forced induction, I would very much prefer either the VQ35HR or the VR38DETT heads since the difference is not worth the cost for cylinder head replacement. Also, if you wish to rev higher than 8000 rpm on a built motor, the VVEL system is a definite limiting factor. Just my opinion, that's all.
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I totally agree with the efficiency. It is quite good. However, the very big downside is that the VVEL heads are not rebuildable since the VVEL ladders are not to be disassembled per Nissan and therefore if your intake valves clearance are out of specs and/or if you need to replace any of the intake valves components, you are out of luck since Nissan do not sell them separately from the heads. In this case, you must buy the entire head assembly, which is very expensive. Also, the VVEL actuator can be quite costly too.
I have two fully functioning spare VVEL actuators sitting here... been using them for some R&D. They cost me $150 each.

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For normally aspirated motors, it probably can squeeze more HP than any other non-VVEL heads, but really for forced induction, I would very much prefer either the VQ35HR or the VR38DETT heads since the difference is not worth the cost for cylinder head replacement. Also, if you wish to rev higher than 8000 rpm on a built motor, the VVEL system is a definite limiting factor. Just my opinion, that's all.
What's wrong with the VVEL system and higher rpm?
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I totally agree with the efficiency. It is quite good. However, the very big downside is that the VVEL heads are not rebuildable since the VVEL ladders are not to be disassembled per Nissan and therefore if your intake valves clearance are out of specs and/or if you need to replace any of the intake valves components, you are out of luck since Nissan do not sell them separately from the heads. In this case, you must buy the entire head assembly, which is very expensive. Also, the VVEL actuator can be quite costly too.

For normally aspirated motors, it probably can squeeze more HP than any other non-VVEL heads, but really for forced induction, I would very much prefer either the VQ35HR or the VR38DETT heads since the difference is not worth the cost for cylinder head replacement. Also, if you wish to rev higher than 8000 rpm on a built motor, the VVEL system is a definite limiting factor. Just my opinion, that's all.


Just to put it out there, the only reason these are considered a "Sealed part" from Nissan is they where not willing to give out measurements for inspection and reassembly.


With that said, we took the time to build jigs, and tools needed to measure and reassemble the entire VVEL system to factory specs, or modified. The goal was to be able to get a bucket of parts, and be able to re-assemble it to be a running, functioning head. We are at the point where we are able to do that.


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We put a good amount of time into sorting out these heads and how they work. As we feel that unless you fully understand how an entire engine works, you should not be taking customers money to build them.


With knowledge based on years of engine development (From VVL SR20s, to taking over and evolving Menards Spec VK56 CORR motors and VK45 based daytona prototype and indy lights engines), we developed tooling to inspect, measure, and re-build these heads back to factory spec or maxing out the available adjustment otherwise. The tolerances of all the VVEL components have to be set to a high degree of precision outside the scope of a hobbyist's feasible budget as far as specialized tooling goes. There are specialized fixtures to measure every single component. We have also determined exact wear tolerances for all of the associated components and have documented all of the manufacturing differences from nissan's evolution of the design.

With all that said, there are still some issues with making adjustments. While we have solutions for racing applications utilizing different engine control hardware, we aren't ready to invest into something that is likely unmarketable for a more street based consumer. Time will tell as more and more people have been contacting us for more high end engine builds not limiting themselves to just forced induction and leaving the heads alone.


The issue does not lie with figuring out the "magic screw" as we have that sorted out, the issues lie with the lack of being able to control the throttling of the engine with the throttle bodies. Using the VVEL to throttle the engine by controlling the lift as the OEM ECU does becomes an issue when you increase the minimum lift via the adjustment.



We are very excited about the future of these engines, and very excited about the development we have undergone here with the VVEL system in itself. As the future unfolds, we look forward to what projects present themselves to us as we always enjoy a good challenge!


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I have physically seen VVEL hit 9k on a daily basis... BBR has one that hits 8500 and a 1000+whp
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I was going to say... it's actually a very simple servo, quite easy to control actually. If the valvetrain itself can't handle the high revs... that's a different issue not necessarily related to the VVEL control system.


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