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Originally Posted by KevinN TerribleOne, it depends on city vs highway miles. When I drove back to San Jose from Specialty Z, I got 300 miles on a full tank.

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Old 02-10-2015, 10:41 PM   #3076 (permalink)
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TerribleOne, it depends on city vs highway miles. When I drove back to San Jose from Specialty Z, I got 300 miles on a full tank. Since then I have been driving mainly city and occasional freeway, and it burns realllllly quick. Last time I checked I probably got like 185 maybe 200 miles from a full tank from just mainly city driving. I'll definitely start keeping track to get a better gauge.

Also, I'm still breaking in my engine that Sebastian built for me. I think I was the first Z with the F.I. TT kit to bend two rods on the dyno lol. So far the kit is great, just waiting to get to that 1500 mile break in mark so I can really romp on it.
at what power level did it break?
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If I had e-85 any where close to me I would go that way because fuel economy is not what it's about if you play a lot lol. I can get e85 delivered for $4.25 a gallon and 100 octane for just under $10 per gallon. I was hoping ecutek would have come through while my Z was at SZ, but it didn't so I went with a 100 octane tune and I have no regrets as my torque numbers are stupid on 100 oct. I need rear tires and now I get to think about what is next. I should have never taken a drive in Seb GTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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3..ish mpg if I'm lucky at the track
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at what power level did it break?
It didn't break, it bent! I'm not sure what the power it was at but let's face it the quality control on mass produced parts can be highly variable, I can't believe it has not happened more. The reality is I see and hear about more issues NA car than FI Zs!!!
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There's tons of E85 stations near my house so my only concern is how to get her home from cali
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Get an uprev cable. If you can't get e85, switch tunes
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Yup, I would check with Seb on a low boost tune for 91 octane to bridge the gaps and plan well on gas stations that have it from LA to Texas. I would call them directly because the locator on the net are not all accurate. They show e85 here at the Terrible Hurst station and they have never had it....I went to the station and the owner said that many stations owner were going to jump in because of government incentives but back out when it didn't happen. So don't trust those sites just because they say so!
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This is why I fill all of our flex fuel cars up with e85 every time. Doing my part to show demand
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It didn't break, it bent! I'm not sure what the power it was at but let's face it the quality control on mass produced parts can be highly variable, I can't believe it has not happened more. The reality is I see and hear about more issues NA car than FI Zs!!!
Yea I wasn't questioning the kit or tune. Plenty of people pushing over 600 without problems. I know thats where I will want to go when it's my turn

Just curious if he was one of the people who asked to turn it up beyond that to find the stock rod limits
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Yup, I would check with Seb on a low boost tune for 91 octane to bridge the gaps and plan well on gas stations that have it from LA to Texas. I would call them directly because the locator on the net are not all accurate. They show e85 here at the Terrible Hurst station and they have never had it....I went to the station and the owner said that many stations owner were going to jump in because of government incentives but back out when it didn't happen. So don't trust those sites just because they say so!
same here in Tucson, I know of at least 2 E85 stations that aren't operational at all. covered in graffiti and weeds in the front

thankfully we have a few that keep a fresh supply
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TerribleOne, it depends on city vs highway miles. When I drove back to San Jose from Specialty Z, I got 300 miles on a full tank. Since then I have been driving mainly city and occasional freeway, and it burns realllllly quick. Last time I checked I probably got like 185 maybe 200 miles from a full tank from just mainly city driving. I'll definitely start keeping track to get a better gauge.

Also, I'm still breaking in my engine that Sebastian built for me. I think I was the first Z with the F.I. TT kit to bend two rods on the dyno lol. So far the kit is great, just waiting to get to that 1500 mile break in mark so I can really romp on it.
Where did you get your 1500 mile mark from? Just curious as to the data or theory behind this. Im planning on turning mine up and I only have 250 miles on my built shortblock.
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When I went to Sebastian, I did not ask to go above and beyond than what was already achieved. I specifically asked to stay within the numbers that were previously obtained by previous customers of F.I. and SZ.

Back in August, when the install was done, Seb was tuning my car on e85, and it bent two rods. How that happened, I have no idea. I guess it was bad luck. It broke at 588 hp and 581 tq.

Nothing I can do about that, except replace the parts. Seb helped me out and decided to do an upgrade to the engine. CP pistons at 11:1, Carillo Rods, and Juke head bolts.

After several months, the vehicle was up and running thanks to Seb. The final numbers on 13 psi was 568 hp 538 tq.

I am also running the SS Zele exhaust, which has a pretty restrictive design (Ill upload a pic of the exhaust if you guys are interested). Still debating if I want to go to Tony to get a custom exhaust for my Zele rear bumper. I'm in love with the way it sounds currently. Definitely does not sound like your typical boosted Z.

As for the 1500 mile break in period. I am just following the directions of Seb. He wanted to go through at least two oil changes using conventional oil before switching to a synthetic at 1500 miles.

Once the break in procedure is in place, and I get better tires, I'll give a more in depth review in the future.

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Back in August, when the install was done, Seb was tuning my car on e85, and it bent two rods. How that happened, I have no idea. I guess it was bad luck. It broke at 588 hp and 581 tq.


Props to Seb for helping you with the rebuild. Sticking to 11:1 compression is also balsy
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Props to Seb for helping you with the rebuild. Sticking to 11:1 compression is also balsy
We've made as much as 590 RWT (faceglide) and 588 RWT (djtodd). A year later on both and still holding together just fine... on full boost I might add!

The 11:1 ratio on the built motor is very smart as long as you are sticking with E85. When Kevin decides to go with our exhaust, we can turn the boost up and really see what we can do!

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Just wanted to chime in here and say how awesome this kit was to install! Hopefully ill get to write a review on here shortly with some detailed experiences.
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