Stillen Supercharger reliabiity

Coon-azz · 01-04-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne

Good read in this thread and nice numbers Nissan370

As much as I love turbo I have been leaning towards a Stillen Supercharger myself just in terms of reliability, maintenance and cost. Not saying a Turbo can't be as reliable, I just imagine the SC to be more forgiving in that aspect.

Id be happy with power in the 400-440 WHP and mid 300's for tq

seems like a good tune is key no matter what application you go with.

Since this is my daily driver, I agree with this. Can anyone identify what the base cost of having this completed runs? I'm guessing about 8k?

irondoc · 01-04-2013, 12:30 PM

$8800 for me, but I paid full price for my kit from Stillen, you might do better and the install was high as I was the first 2013, so 8K seems doable.

elperuano · 01-04-2013, 12:41 PM

Nissan370, when r u gonna tell everyone the great new news about ur FI kit??

chrisgordillo · 01-04-2013, 06:35 PM

I recently got my stillen supercharger. 408whp and 305 torque. Dyno numbers also vary with ambient temp. These numbers were at about 75 degrees with 50% humidity. I also am stock except for supercharger. I cant wait to get a hfc and cbe. With those i'll be getting in the high 400's and mid 300's with torque.

Nissan370 · 01-04-2013, 07:51 PM

ya i will post it in the for sale section
going to be selling my stillen kit

complete stillen kit with 600cc injectors/255 walbro fuel pump ,cog pullies and 9lb pulley

in a month or so
i ordered the s&r performance top mount turbo .

only thing thats needed is a custom tune

Sh0velMan · 01-07-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370

ya i will post it in the for sale section
going to be selling my stillen kit

complete stillen kit with 600cc injectors/255 walbro fuel pump ,cog pullies and 9lb pulley

in a month or so
i ordered the s&r performance top mount turbo .

only thing thats needed is a custom tune

How much are you thinking you'll ask? How many miles on the kit?

Nissan370 · 01-07-2013, 12:44 PM

my kit has less then 3k on it i had the kit put on in aug 2011 35k on the car i now have 38k on the car
most of the low miles was because i only dive my z 2 times a week and all of last summer mar 2012-aug 2012 i was having a new motor built

other then that no problem with the kit
i will be selling 4.5k obo

irondoc · 01-28-2013, 12:14 PM

The car went back to IPS over the weekend to sort out the stalling issue. The shield that covers the Air flow sensors had to be modified to fit the 2013, but when put in place the stalling was nearly completely gone. IPS also slightly modified the tune to increase fuel flow at idle. The car runs perfectly now - no stalling. I am very pleased.
Of note my last tank of fuel was 15.85 gallons topped off. I got 290 miles out of that tank The trip computer read 43mph average.
The trip computer also read 28mpg for that tank, but 290/15.85 = 18.3 mpg.
So don't trust your computer to tell you your mpg with the Stillen SC in place, it way overestimates.

dansracing · 01-28-2013, 04:45 PM

Irondoc it sounds like your pretty happy with your car. I have a new 2012 with 1800 miles on it and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this SC. I read the entire thread and there are many opinions and issues. It seems though, that most are not happy because they want more and more power. Thats great, but I want to maintain the factory block, and it cant handle much more than 400WHP for any length of time. I live down in Texas so summer heat may be an issue, and I have to check into that more. But if I can get around 400WHP out of this small car, I know I will be happy and stay alive a few more years lol.
On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is.....
Like you, I want a clean new car with much more than factory HP in a new car package. I will keep an eye on your feedback regarding your install.

elperuano · 01-28-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dansracing

Irondoc it sounds like your pretty happy with your car. I have a new 2012 with 1800 miles on it and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this SC. I read the entire thread and there are many opinions and issues. It seems though, that most are not happy because they want more and more power. Thats great, but I want to maintain the factory block, and it cant handle much more than 400WHP for any length of time. I live down in Texas so summer heat may be an issue, and I have to check into that more. But if I can get around 400WHP out of this small car, I know I will be happy and stay alive a few more years lol.
On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is.....
Like you, I want a clean new car with much more than factory HP in a new car package. I will keep an eye on your feedback regarding your install.

Such a misinformed post. You have a lot of reading to catch up on. Power n longevity depend on how good your tune is from your tuner. There r guys out there with 500hp+ running for years just fine with no problem. Read up n research...

Chuck33079 · 01-28-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by irondoc

So don't trust your computer to tell you your mpg with the Stillen SC in place, it way overestimates.

It's basing its calculations on a smaller set of injectors. Any time you change the injectors you throw off the mpg reading. I get around 18 mpg combined driving and my display shows almost 30 mpg. I just switched the display to outside temperature. I'd love it if someone figured out how to reprogram the car to account for the larger injectors so I can have it work again.

irondoc · 01-29-2013, 06:39 AM

[QUOTE=dansracing;2135224]......On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is.....
Point to the MPG calculation is that Stillen has made claims of improved MPG with the SC, and others have debated the issue here, so just posting my real world observation.
The bulk of what I have read here suggests that our engines can safely handle outputs up to mid 500's whp. As you stated, several of those running TT kits feel the Stillen SC does not provide enough of an increase in power. However my car is now at 395whp (Dynojet at 61 degrees F) with snow tires with no attempt to improve the tune for power.
Others seem to have achieved up to 440whp with additional tuning. Then there is of course the possibility of a 9 or 10 psi pulley (more?). I do not imagine I will want much more than what I could get from tweaking the Stillen kit down the road. Maybe someone who has truly maximized the Stillen kit can comment on what they have achieved.
Other Stillen advantages
1. 50 state CARB legal
2. 36 month - 36,000 mile warranty.

Coon-azz · 01-29-2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by irondoc

$8800 for me, but I paid full price for my kit from Stillen, you might do better and the install was high as I was the first 2013, so 8K seems doable.

thats some serious $ for as problematic as this has been for you; which I'm sorry to hear. this is exactly why I've stayed away from this option so far. If I dish out 8k, I expect to pick up my car working perfectly.

Coon-azz · 01-29-2013, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansracing

Irondoc it sounds like your pretty happy with your car. I have a new 2012 with 1800 miles on it and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this SC. I read the entire thread and there are many opinions and issues. It seems though, that most are not happy because they want more and more power. Thats great, but I want to maintain the factory block, and it cant handle much more than 400WHP for any length of time. I live down in Texas so summer heat may be an issue, and I have to check into that more. But if I can get around 400WHP out of this small car, I know I will be happy and stay alive a few more years lol.
On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is.....
Like you, I want a clean new car with much more than factory HP in a new car package. I will keep an eye on your feedback regarding your install.

Agreed here as well. This is my daily driver. No since in owning it, if I'm not gonna drive it. In 10 years, I'll want something new anyway. 400 RWHP is more than enough for me. Virginia heat, humidity and traffic suck almost all summer long. 8k is a piece of change though for so many problems I've read. Is it the kit ,or the installers?

Coon-azz · 01-29-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano

Such a misinformed post. You have a lot of reading to catch up on. Power n longevity depend on how good your tune is from your tuner. There r guys out there with 500hp+ running for years just fine with no problem. Read up n research...

That may be, but is this something they drive daily, or is this 500 HP beast a weekend warrior that only sees pavement when its 75 degrees, no rain, and etc etc? If you are going to critique troubleshooting/research methodologies, make sure you also compare "apples-to-apples". Though, I agree with your comment about researching 100%. The reason I say this, is because I've met many people who claim "no issues" with max HP builds, but what you don't find out till later is that this is a trailer queen, or they only average about 5,000 miles a year on the car. If it’s a daily driver through all kinds of environmental situations and they still maintain stock drivability, now that's a testimonial. If its a 1 day a week ride ,then no, I' dont think the feedback is comparable.

01-04-2013, 06:35 PM	#49 (permalink)
chrisgordillo Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Broward Posts: 30 Drives: Black 2010 370z Rep Power: 15	I recently got my stillen supercharger. 408whp and 305 torque. Dyno numbers also vary with ambient temp. These numbers were at about 75 degrees with 50% humidity. I also am stock except for supercharger. I cant wait to get a hfc and cbe. With those i'll be getting in the high 400's and mid 300's with torque. Last edited by chrisgordillo; 01-04-2013 at 06:37 PM.

01-04-2013, 07:51 PM	#50 (permalink)
Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 14	ya i will post it in the for sale section going to be selling my stillen kit complete stillen kit with 600cc injectors/255 walbro fuel pump ,cog pullies and 9lb pulley in a month or so i ordered the s&r performance top mount turbo . only thing thats needed is a custom tune superchargedg and elperuano like this. __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out) Last edited by Nissan370; 01-04-2013 at 07:56 PM.

01-07-2013, 12:44 PM	#52 (permalink)
Nissan370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 431 Drives: 2009 ST BLK 370Z Rep Power: 14	my kit has less then 3k on it i had the kit put on in aug 2011 35k on the car i now have 38k on the car most of the low miles was because i only dive my z 2 times a week and all of last summer mar 2012-aug 2012 i was having a new motor built other then that no problem with the kit i will be selling 4.5k obo __________________ 370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out)

01-28-2013, 12:14 PM	#53 (permalink)
irondoc Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Drives: 13 370 6MT sport tou Rep Power: 13	The car went back to IPS over the weekend to sort out the stalling issue. The shield that covers the Air flow sensors had to be modified to fit the 2013, but when put in place the stalling was nearly completely gone. IPS also slightly modified the tune to increase fuel flow at idle. The car runs perfectly now - no stalling. I am very pleased. Of note my last tank of fuel was 15.85 gallons topped off. I got 290 miles out of that tank The trip computer read 43mph average. The trip computer also read 28mpg for that tank, but 290/15.85 = 18.3 mpg. So don't trust your computer to tell you your mpg with the Stillen SC in place, it way overestimates. dansracing and ErodZ like this.

01-28-2013, 04:45 PM	#54 (permalink)
dansracing Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Katy Texas Posts: 183 Drives: 2012 370 Nismo Rep Power: 13	Irondoc it sounds like your pretty happy with your car. I have a new 2012 with 1800 miles on it and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this SC. I read the entire thread and there are many opinions and issues. It seems though, that most are not happy because they want more and more power. Thats great, but I want to maintain the factory block, and it cant handle much more than 400WHP for any length of time. I live down in Texas so summer heat may be an issue, and I have to check into that more. But if I can get around 400WHP out of this small car, I know I will be happy and stay alive a few more years lol. On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is..... Like you, I want a clean new car with much more than factory HP in a new car package. I will keep an eye on your feedback regarding your install. __________________

01-04-2013, 12:30 PM	#47 (permalink)
irondoc Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Drives: 13 370 6MT sport tou Rep Power: 13	$8800 for me, but I paid full price for my kit from Stillen, you might do better and the install was high as I was the first 2013, so 8K seems doable.

01-04-2013, 12:41 PM	#48 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 29	Nissan370, when r u gonna tell everyone the great new news about ur FI kit??

01-29-2013, 06:39 AM	#57 (permalink)
irondoc Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Drives: 13 370 6MT sport tou Rep Power: 13	[QUOTE=dansracing;2135224]......On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is..... Point to the MPG calculation is that Stillen has made claims of improved MPG with the SC, and others have debated the issue here, so just posting my real world observation. The bulk of what I have read here suggests that our engines can safely handle outputs up to mid 500's whp. As you stated, several of those running TT kits feel the Stillen SC does not provide enough of an increase in power. However my car is now at 395whp (Dynojet at 61 degrees F) with snow tires with no attempt to improve the tune for power. Others seem to have achieved up to 440whp with additional tuning. Then there is of course the possibility of a 9 or 10 psi pulley (more?). I do not imagine I will want much more than what I could get from tweaking the Stillen kit down the road. Maybe someone who has truly maximized the Stillen kit can comment on what they have achieved. Other Stillen advantages 1. 50 state CARB legal 2. 36 month - 36,000 mile warranty.

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