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Old 01-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Irondoc it sounds like your pretty happy with your car. I have a new 2012 with 1800 miles on it and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this SC. I read the entire thread and there are many opinions and issues. It seems though, that most are not happy because they want more and more power. Thats great, but I want to maintain the factory block, and it cant handle much more than 400WHP for any length of time. I live down in Texas so summer heat may be an issue, and I have to check into that more. But if I can get around 400WHP out of this small car, I know I will be happy and stay alive a few more years lol.
On MPG. Who cares? If your putting the power to the car and your spending the money for it, who cares what the MPG is.....
Like you, I want a clean new car with much more than factory HP in a new car package. I will keep an eye on your feedback regarding your install.
Such a misinformed post. You have a lot of reading to catch up on. Power n longevity depend on how good your tune is from your tuner. There r guys out there with 500hp+ running for years just fine with no problem. Read up n research...
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Such a misinformed post. You have a lot of reading to catch up on. Power n longevity depend on how good your tune is from your tuner. There r guys out there with 500hp+ running for years just fine with no problem. Read up n research...
That may be, but is this something they drive daily, or is this 500 HP beast a weekend warrior that only sees pavement when its 75 degrees, no rain, and etc etc? If you are going to critique troubleshooting/research methodologies, make sure you also compare "apples-to-apples". Though, I agree with your comment about researching 100%. The reason I say this, is because I've met many people who claim "no issues" with max HP builds, but what you don't find out till later is that this is a trailer queen, or they only average about 5,000 miles a year on the car. If it’s a daily driver through all kinds of environmental situations and they still maintain stock drivability, now that's a testimonial. If its a 1 day a week ride ,then no, I' dont think the feedback is comparable.
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That may be, but is this something they drive daily, or is this 500 HP beast a weekend warrior that only sees pavement when its 75 degrees, no rain, and etc etc? If you are going to critique troubleshooting/research methodologies, make sure you also compare "apples-to-apples". Though, I agree with your comment about researching 100%. The reason I say this, is because I've met many people who claim "no issues" with max HP builds, but what you don't find out till later is that this is a trailer queen, or they only average about 5,000 miles a year on the car. If it’s a daily driver through all kinds of environmental situations and they still maintain stock drivability, now that's a testimonial. If its a 1 day a week ride ,then no, I' dont think the feedback is comparable.
Well uhh you could find out if they're DD their Z or if its a "trailer queen" by researching... Off the top of my head I think I can think of 3 guys that DD their Z. I have a stage 2 Gtm that I DD and its over 500+hp. There's nothing wrong with daily drivin a boosted Z. If you have a good installer n a good tuner the Z will last quite a long time with double the horsepower.
The statement made earlier was simply some guy too scared or unwilling to put the money needed to boost a Z correctly. No need to try to spoil it for others with posts that a boosted Z won't last or give a lot of problems, especially in the FI section.
Just research and find out which shops have the most positive feedback and which shop has a lot of knowledge on the VQ platform and tuning. People who skip that part are the bitter ones that have problems with their Z.

6k miles so far and I still have the silly grin on my face everytime I start my car. Haven't had a single problem from day 1 except for a heavier right foot.

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Well uhh you could find out if they're DD their Z or if its a "trailer queen" by researching... Off the top of my head I think I can think of 3 guys that DD their Z. I have a stage 2 Gtm that I DD and its over 500+hp. There's nothing wrong with daily drivin a boosted Z. If you have a good installer n a good tuner the Z will last quite a long time with double the horsepower.
The statement made earlier was simply some guy too scared or unwilling to put the money needed to boost a Z correctly. No need to try to spoil it for others with posts that a boosted Z won't last or give a lot of problems, especially in the FI section.
Just research and find out which shops have the most positive feedback and which shop has a lot of knowledge on the VQ platform and tuning. People who skip that part are the bitter ones that have problems with their Z.

6k miles so far and I still have the silly grin on my face everytime I start my car. Haven't had a single problem from day 1 except for a heavier right foot.

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this is good intel! 6,000 is a good run. I would assume that if you had an issue, it would have reared it head by now. (AND we don't want any issues) .
Also, based on my own experiences, your comment, "Just research and find out which shops have the most positive feedback and which shop has a lot of knowledge on the VQ platform and tuning." seems simple, but its (in my opinion) a major factor in the install. This will be were I focus my efforts next.
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Coon-Azz -
My 2013 is now running flawlessly, and it is my DD. My problems related to the fact that mine was the FIRST 2013 to have a Stillen SC installed.
Cost was also higher for install and tuning because of that fact.
Stillen does run sales, especially at the end of the year.
Keep your eyes open, use an experienced installer/tuner (or install yourself) and you may well get away with 6K or a lot less. Some used kits being sold here are an option to consider as well.
Bottom line is, the car is fast enough to be fun without the kit. With this FI kit, it is much more fun. How much is that worth to you? What is your $/fun ratio?
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My 2013 is now running flawlessly, and it is my DD. My problems related to the fact that mine was the FIRST 2013 to have a Stillen SC installed.
Cost was also higher for install and tuning because of that fact.
Stillen does run sales, especially at the end of the year.
Keep your eyes open, use an experienced installer/tuner (or install yourself) and you may well get away with 6K or a lot less. Some used kits being sold here are an option to consider as well.
Bottom line is, the car is fast enough to be fun without the kit. With this FI kit, it is much more fun. How much is that worth to you? What is your $/fun ratio?
Did you upgrade any of the plastic parts from the kit like the idler pully?
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Did you upgrade any of the plastic parts from the kit like the idler pully?
Pulley not upgraded. My installer upgraded several clamps and hoses, but not the pulley.
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Pulley not upgraded. My installer upgraded several clamps and hoses, but not the pulley.
Seems to be a good decision to make. Anything plastic usually needs to go.
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Pulley not upgraded. My installer upgraded several clamps and hoses, but not the pulley.
It would be great to see more pictures of your install. Another thing I was thinking about changing were the hoses for the water/air cooler on the front of the intake. I would like to do some braided hoses etc. I show the car allot so some eye candy under there would be good.
When I purchased the car I pretty much conceded that I was going to put another 20K into it so I have waisted a few $$ on NA upgrades like the Motordyne intake and G3 CIA but all along I wanted to do a FI solution. In our group there are 3 guys that have TT and 2 that have SC in which one is the Stillen. Of all of them, the Stillen was the most problem free so I am going that rout. We have a great tuner in the area and he has done tons of 3.7 work both in tune and FI so I am very confident in his abilities.

Did you upgrade your clutch? I am planning on that as well along with an aluminum flywheel. May even go with the short shifter upgrade since the tranny will be dropped.
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Upgrades so far -

NISMO Cat back exhaust
NISMO wheels
STILEN SC
STILLEN SETRAB Oil Cooler Kit - Race (This represents about $700 of the funds invested in the cost and install of the SC kit as it was highly recommended by Stillen due to well known overheating problems in the 370.
No new clutch.

Keep in mind the SC comes with its own CAI so if you go with the SC - your current CAI will likely end up in the used marketplace.
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My 2013 is now running flawlessly, and it is my DD. My problems related to the fact that mine was the FIRST 2013 to have a Stillen SC installed.
Cost was also higher for install and tuning because of that fact.
Stillen does run sales, especially at the end of the year.
Keep your eyes open, use an experienced installer/tuner (or install yourself) and you may well get away with 6K or a lot less. Some used kits being sold here are an option to consider as well.
Bottom line is, the car is fast enough to be fun without the kit. With this FI kit, it is much more fun. How much is that worth to you? What is your $/fun ratio?
thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I like the concept of the Twin Turbo set up, but if you want instant on, the SC (IMO) is the way to go. The few times I've autocrossed, the SC would have been a better option than the turbo. Great advice and enjoy the new SC. (I'm so jelous). If you get a chance to post a video or two, that would be awesome. (hint hint)
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Such a misinformed post. You have a lot of reading to catch up on. Power n longevity depend on how good your tune is from your tuner. There r guys out there with 500hp+ running for years just fine with no problem. Read up n research...
Ha.... I have researched just fine, and there is nobody out there running
500+ HP with no problems.
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I have no trouble with the clutch, but I am not racing the car.
Regarding the injectors, I am running the injectors that came with the kit. I asked my tuner about this, he seemed to feel they were more than adequate for my current warrantied Stillen tune at 395 whp
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I have no trouble with the clutch, but I am not racing the car.
Nor am I racing the car. I've had the kit for 2.5 years now and my stock clutch is going out. I plan to replace clutch and most definitely the CSC. I'm currently experiencing slipping under heavy acceleration. I've already had the clutch fluid boil on me and turn black. had to fully drain and refill. But this is most likely due to the CSC going out....it is plastic after all!

So, if you have this kit or any FI, i'd recommend a new clutch & CSC in your near future.
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