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Sounds like you nee 3.3 final drive, I start in 3 gear at 80 and end up in 5 gear by 150. |
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Not sure how to correct the issue people have been switching final drives on Z's for years. At my power level I need it the stock gears are just to short for my power level. My speedometer being of a little is something I am not worried about it can be thrown off just by changing tires. |
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High boost 647whp 613TQ link to my thread is in my Sig |
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By the way, how is the driveability for your high power TT set up ? Hopefully it should be as good as factory turbo on a GTR ? I mean no bogging, erratic idling issues , hard starting issues at all temperature range ? |
Squeeze definitely has a 200mph car. Aero is .29 cd. The GT500 is a brick in comparison, and does not make the kind of juice Squeeze is making (pun intended)
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Yet at those speeds it would be nice to have two coolers with fans. I think the best would be a cooler in each side of the front wheel well with an hole cut to let air in and one out with hose that goes to cool the brakes and puller fans on both. That way the faster you drive the more cooling and even cooling when you slow down. |
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If you factor in 15%-17% drivetrain lose that would put around 750 crank. I have no doubt that the car can do 200 MPH just haven't had the room to do it. I have done 170-175 and the car get's there quick. The driveability of the car is perfect like it came that way from the factory. The tune is spot on no erratic idling issues hard start issues. My Oil temps in the summer stayed around 180-190 W.O.T after a bunch of pulls 220. |
since we are on the topic of FI and high speeds i got a good question. i was told that with my 7AT transmission and going with a TT setup i would basically lose my 6 and 7 gears. since the stress of high rpm in those gears + added hp/tq would blow everything up. this was actually my main reason for not going FI since like you all i enjoy touching my speed limiter and cruising at high speeds on the highways (especially long trips) plus the other problem is that GTM's stage 4 AT tranny is $8k with labor and still was told the higher gears may not be completely safe. :shakes head:
anyone wanna help shed some light on this? you guys seem to know a good bit about FI and high speed. |
I'm definitely no expert, but pushing a lot of torque on the overdrive gears, gears that are not built to handle the abuse the first few get, they may not hold up very well. My shop was hesitant to run my dyno's in 5th because they didn't want to put that extra wear on the gear. Again, I have no direct experience with the failure of the gears.
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my original goal was 550 to 600WHP but at those numbers the TQ gets up there and i'd probably blow my transmission in a week. |
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fellas I know its not optimal for me to start in 6th at 80 mph and go all the way up. Iv had my car for 2 years and iv tried things just because I can. If I were trying to get to 160 faster id start in a lower gear. I just wanted to see how it would start to pull and not stop pulling until I let off the gas. I chose to stop at 160 when i did it. With that being said I think i could redline this car in 6th gear with enuff room. Im at 540 whp on a gtm twin turbo. all stock aero besides a vented hood. the car did 160 before the turbos. I now have 200 more horses.
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Unfortunately, Uprev does not deal with BCM commands. They only deal with ECU commands. Besides that, they restrict mostly to performance parameters. Uprev cannot even do do everything that Consult III can do, unfortunately. However, Uprev is great for all your performance needs pretty much. |
Overall, It is good to know that even a stock factory engine with about 500whp can speed up to 190 mph and won't get burn out that easily if the entire engine temperature ( including oil ) stays cool enough and as long as the engine does not knock at that load.
The VVEL is very robust as long as we keep the rpm at 7500 rpm max and make sure that it does not have any moments of oil deprivation. If the VVEL mechanism is oil starved at all, there is a very highly likely chance that it will crash sooner or later. One of the things that I must do for my car is to add the Greddy oil pan in there. This oil pan not only adds in about 2 additional quarts of oil and cools it further, it does gave some baffle plate design that will surely help to minimize if not eliminate oil starvation during 1.4 G turns at 6000+ rpm. Cheap insurance against burning out the motor, totally worth it. I will post detail of my work once I am done with that. |
Does anyone know a better oil pan for this VQ37 engine in the market than the Greddy one ?? All of us, please let me know if you do .......
I found AM Performance oil pan. The baffle plate design looks pretty killer and awesome but costs 1 grand. Worst than that, these AM performance people NEVER replied to my emails at all. Their telephone number in Scotts Valley, Ca is disconnected as well ...... |
According to my spreadsheet.
640hp - 210 mph Rev Limter Governed 500hp - 210 mph Rev Limiter Governed 450hp - 208 mph 400hp - 199 mph 350hp - 188 mph 300hp - 176 mph 280hp - 170 mph Based on the math anyways. |
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i mean with higher HP youre typically adding weight with engine parts, turbos, coolers, etc... i know it may not matter since its just a simple equation for fun purposes but just a thought lol |
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Also, I assume that these are rear wheel horsepower that you are stating. I am looking for about 480 - 500 reliable whp for my future FI . I can only hope to get up to 193 mph for my Z at 500whp, then I will be so much happy. |
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Honestly, you need a larger, or 2 larger oil coolers, and I'd recommend a different front bumper, maybe the Amuse, Stillen or Nismo to allow more airflow. The stock bumper blocks A LOT of the surface area of the cooling apparatuses. |
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Take a look at the spreadsheet I put up in my thread. These values are calculated taking into account weight (I had it set at 3300 lbs), wind resistance (assuming 0.30 CD) and the torque curve of our cars. What I did was took a stock dyno chart and then scaled it up to get the desired peak hp's. Again not entirely correct but I believe is a valid assumption as typically the TQ curves are just magnified when adding boost. To add to my other post. Time from 0-160 640hp = 12 s 550hp = 14.3 s 500hp = 15.85 s 450hp = 17.9 s 400hp = 20.5 s 350hp = 24.2 s 300hp = 29.7 s Again just based on the math. At speeds such as those weight really plays very little in determining power to overcome resistance at those speeds. |
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i hit my speed limiter a few hours after i bought mine on the 1200 mile drive home i had :tup: |
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I think the best to do is to try it out and see the real result. Like I said before on my previous post: I paid a professional driver to test out my GT3 RS MK2 for absolute top speed. The car was bone stock and had only 450 hp at the engine. Indeed, the guy topped out at ~194 mph. Now, that GT3 weighed only 3022 lbs. However, I think, but I am not 100% positive, that my GT3 had a much better aerodynamic over this stock 370Z and that's why not much hp needed in order to get up there..... and it got up there pretty strong with not much struggle. |
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Google provided me with this: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...tml#post247002 Again, that's just based on math... I doubt the car will go that fast though... God bless the crazies in Germany that want to take their 370Z TO 200MPH... I wouldn't feel safe, nothing in the car is designed to go that fast |
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No, I know it will go that fast, and faster, I have gone 125+, but only for a short period of time, cruising at 130+, God bless Germany, lol |
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