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Mr&Mrs 01-24-2013 05:15 PM

Glad your up and running! This has been fun to follow, and I cant wait for you to get better weather to enjoy your "new" ride.

Mitco39 01-24-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BG370z (Post 2128738)
For sure man. Ps your 40th is awesome!

As is your ride, Congrats on the build!. :tup:

BG370z 01-24-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 2128741)
Glad your up and running! This has been fun to follow, and I cant wait for you to get better weather to enjoy your "new" ride.

Its been a cool experience and learned alot. Now i just want to drive.

BG370z 01-25-2013 06:06 AM

Just wondering if there are any break-in rules for new turbos?

G37Sam 01-25-2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BG370z (Post 2129401)
Just wondering if there are any break-in rules for new turbos?

You boost it like you stole it :driving:

Chuck33079 01-25-2013 07:16 AM

The turbos don't really need break-in. Take it easy on it at first though. It's a whole different car. It can get away from you if you're not paying attention.

Sh0velMan 01-25-2013 07:46 AM

Anything with bearings will appreciate being babied for the first couple weeks of use. Do yourself a favor and don't run around boosting constantly and give the turbos plenty of time to spin down and cool down before you kill the engine.

Chuck33079 01-25-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2129487)
give the turbos plenty of time to spin down and cool down before you kill the engine.

This. I know the turbos are oil and water cooled, but idling for a minute or so before you shut it down will make things last a lot longer. Just finish listening to the song on the radio before you turn it off.

Sh0velMan 01-25-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2129562)
This. I know the turbos are oil and water cooled, but idling for a minute or so before you shut it down will make things last a lot longer. Just finish listening to the song on the radio before you turn it off.

Yeah, 'cause once the engine stops, the flow of oil stops (I'm pretty sure water cooled turbos are a thing of the past).

If you roar into your driveway and kill the engine, the turbos could be spinning at 20000+ RPM when that flow of oil stops, meaning your bearings can go basically dry before the turbine stops spinning, and the little bit of oil left in them will cook off, causing damage over the long term.

Edit: Hell, for that matter, I like to give the engine itself time to cool down before I kill it in my N/A setup. The heads in our cars generate a lot of heat when driving and giving it some time to cool down at idle (the oil helps take heat from the valve train) doesn't hurt at all.

BG370z 01-25-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2129487)
Anything with bearings will appreciate being babied for the first couple weeks of use. Do yourself a favor and don't run around boosting constantly and give the turbos plenty of time to spin down and cool down before you kill the engine.

Good stuff. I will take it a bit easy for first couple of weeks(i hope)
The letting it idle and get oil to turbo i see as a must. Maybe turbo
timer in the future-thanks

Chuck33079 01-25-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2129564)
(I'm pretty sure water cooled turbos are a thing of the past)

The GTM turbos are both oil and water cooled. Since the turbos are mounted so low, the coolant will continue to cycle for a little while after shutdown. I still let it idle for a minute or two so the oil doesn't have a chance to coke in the lines and bearings (although modern synthetic oil doesn't do that like it used to).

No real reason for a turbo timer. It doesn't cost anything to sit in the car for a minute after you get where you're going.

BG370z 01-25-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2129562)
This. I know the turbos are oil and water cooled, but idling for a minute or so before you shut it down will make things last a lot longer. Just finish listening to the song on the radio before you turn it off.

Perferably a nice calm song so im not on the throttle-lol
Great hint-Thanks

BG370z 01-25-2013 05:38 PM

my very first attempt at U-tube video-be kind-lol
this was a quick stop to see car all done except for
an alignment and wash-sounds awesome

BG370z 01-25-2013 05:40 PM

lets try this again

Nissan 370z Gtm TT - YouTube

GaleForce 01-25-2013 06:25 PM

Very nice. Looks and sounds good.

I embedded the video for you,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyCBOFGHrnA

Baer383 01-25-2013 06:33 PM

Sounds good:tup:

But whats up with the mid 11 afr at idle,and don't tell me b/c it's cold.

GaleForce 01-25-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2131009)
Sounds good:tup:

But whats up with the mid 11 afr at idle,and don't tell me b/c it's cold.

He just got a map from GTM. Maybe they (GTM) err of the side of too rich until the OP can do some proper data logging for them to make a proper map?

Baer383 01-25-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2131020)
He just got a map from GTM. Maybe they (GTM) err of the side of too rich until the OP can do some proper data logging for them to make a proper map?

I don't think so b/c Sam doesn't mess with the idle b/c it is the same as n/a

dal1307 01-25-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2131036)
I don't think so b/c Sam doesn't mess with the idle b/c it is the same as n/a

It seems like he would have to do something with the idle due to the larger injectors.

Baer383 01-25-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dal1307 (Post 2131246)
It seems like he would have to do something with the idle due to the larger injectors.

Sam told me he doesn't mess with the idle,so I don't know know just making a comment on it.

dal1307 01-26-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2131265)
Sam told me he doesn't mess with the idle,so I don't know know just making a comment on it.

You may be right as I was just speculating that there would have to be some adjustment to fuel trim at idle but I really don't know for sure. I would definitely believe whatever Sam says.

Mr&Mrs 01-26-2013 03:40 AM

I would like to know about that idle also. Love the gauges and the car sounds great!

BG370z 01-26-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2130998)
Very nice. Looks and sounds good.

I embedded the video for you,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyCBOFGHrnA

thanks for the video embedment

BG370z 01-26-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2131265)
Sam told me he doesn't mess with the idle,so I don't know know just making a comment on it.

Im not sure what is going on for idle. Keep in mind car has not been run
too much and i just started up for pictures. the day before the AF was showing around 14. it did stall one time in 10 starts. i dont know what to be looking for,it sounds great but i have not played with it yet. coming home Monday.

Mr&Mrs 01-27-2013 01:22 PM

May be having a fuel issue at start up I would let sam know and he can tweak the tune for you. You should be around 14.5 at idle if im not mistaken. My car had a hot start issue he fixed with no problem once he got a hold of it.

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Originally Posted by BG370z (Post 2131914)
Im not sure what is going on for idle. Keep in mind car has not been run
too much and i just started up for pictures. the day before the AF was showing around 14. it did stall one time in 10 starts. i dont know what to be looking for,it sounds great but i have not played with it yet. coming home Monday.


BG370z 01-27-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 2133236)
May be having a fuel issue at start up I would let sam know and he can tweak the tune for you. You should be around 14.5 at idle if im not mistaken. My car had a hot start issue he fixed with no problem once he got a hold of it.

Thanks for the info. i will check on this tommorrow. it was at 14.5 or so
the other day when it was warmed up. I know Sam did tune for our 91 octane
here perhaps that has something to do with it.

BG370z 01-29-2013 06:04 AM

Working fantastic. Picked up the car yesterday. Did not put it into boost yet.
Drove it in for a much needed alignment. All i can say is wow. The AF is running the way it should around 14.4. The exhaust is a bit on the loud side.
Everone who saw the car was drooling. Someone asked why and i told it was a cool car and it just got a whole lot cooler. Cant wait to take it out on a warmer day,hey maybe today:rofl2::rofl2:

GaleForce 01-29-2013 07:44 AM

Nice. Looking forward to more videos.

BG370z 01-29-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2136292)
Nice. Looking forward to more videos.

For sure and more driving - lol

BG370z 01-29-2013 08:11 AM

I would like to thank all forum members contributing hints and reading my build. Big shout outs to GTM and Z1 Motorsports. Thanks

elperuano 01-29-2013 08:23 AM

Congrats on the new beast. Now the fun begins!

BG370z 01-29-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2136336)
Congrats on the new beast. Now the fun begins!

It feels like a different car. Shopping for tires now-lol

Mitco39 01-29-2013 09:48 AM

Is it bad that I tried to figure out what SOLO meant on your display picture? lol. Durrrp.

BG370z 01-29-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2136523)
Is it bad that I tried to figure out what SOLO meant on your display picture? lol. Durrrp.

It is not so bad. Another great day when i picked it up from the
dealers SOLD lot. lol

SAM@GTM 02-08-2013 01:20 PM

The car should hover around 14.7 and there is no reason for it to do anything different. I noticed you have installed an Innovate Wideband which could be tricky to calibrate sometimes. I would look at the correction factor and pay attention to that since it will give us a good indication of what the car is actually doing. If the correction factor is 100% (+/- 10%), then I would recalibrate the gauge. Also, we have never received a log after the install was done. It's mind boggling that somebody could do such an intensive modification to a car and not send a log to verify everything. I would really have the shop do that before you really start getting on the car. Let me know if you need anything, I'm always here to help.

Sam

BG370z 02-09-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 2155180)
The car should hover around 14.7 and there is no reason for it to do anything different. I noticed you have installed an Innovate Wideband which could be tricky to calibrate sometimes. I would look at the correction factor and pay attention to that since it will give us a good indication of what the car is actually doing. If the correction factor is 100% (+/- 10%), then I would recalibrate the gauge. Also, we have never received a log after the install was done. It's mind boggling that somebody could do such an intensive modification to a car and not send a log to verify everything. I would really have the shop do that before you really start getting on the car. Let me know if you need anything, I'm always here to help.

Sam

As soon as weather clears up i will talk to shop to address the Innovative Wideband Calibration. I will also get them to send a log to verify everything.
The car is in storage 10 minutes from shop so i will get this done for sure. I have not drove car more than 1 hour just to do an alignment and not into boost yet. I very much appreciate your input and hope to have great performance for this spring and summer.
Thanks alot

BG370z 05-22-2013 06:14 PM

New hose kit
 
2 Attachment(s)
Must stop spending money....lol

SS_Firehawk 05-22-2013 07:12 PM

Power curve looks like a SC. How much boost are you pushing currently? Did you have it tuned to have that curve specifically?

elperuano 05-22-2013 08:38 PM

Definitely looks low. Especially tq. I'm guessing this is just at wastegate. Time to up the boost!

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 08:48 PM

What's with the torque spikes higher in the rpms? Is this the canned tune or custom? Numbers seem a little low.


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