cog pulley and stillen kit plz advice
 

ok so mike(anmvq) sent me his cog pulley set-up for my stillen kit
besides spacers is there anything else i need to do to get this on the car and working
and if anyone has pictures that would be cool to thxs

also if i get the uprev maf's will i be fine or do i still need to some how upgrade to larger intake piping

Smh... Make sure u got all ur piggy banks filled with quarters.

lol why you say that ? i have a built motor and i am using water/meth and my tuner is tuning for reliabilty i mean worst thing would be some kinda belt slippage

You have a built motor and water/meth and ur using a stillen kit????:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Why post if your not going to help? Man people annoy me!

Anyway I do not know much about this but two people I know for sure that are very very nice, and will help out are: MrSqueeze and Nut_N_Much

Nut_N_Much is currently doing this on his own and has posted a few pics in his build journal so check it out Click Here. MrSqueeze was the first I know of to use this setup and has moved on to bigger better things. He is also a wealth of knowledge for this setup.

thxs mr&mrs lol

(still with stillen)ya i know but i am still trying to recover from dropping 9k on the kit installed and 8.5k on a new motor
maybe late spring early summer i can do turbo just working with what i got
stillen kit is not a great kit but the vortech is a good blower

Hey man I have some pics on my phone from Mr.Sqeeze he helped me a lot, he still is helping, lol great guy.Just text me and ill shot you the pics. BTW nothing special to get them yo work just up grade the MAF'S and you should be good. I would look into a upgrade for the small heat exchanger too. if my car goes south Ill sell you Mine. I have been think about parting it out just incase.

Hey brother,
What kit do you have? Why do you think you need bigger piping and UPREV MAFs. Will PM you on this one.

I got on of these at auto zone for 32.00 to pull the Stillen pulleys off. Just take your time and if they wont budge heat the face of the pulley up with a propane torch from home depot. Do not heat the shaft, you don;t want to damage the bearings, just want to unseeze the pulleys from the key.

http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...8-img-0683.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...2-img-0604.jpg
Once you get them off you will reuse the Keys (Small Square Rod) with the Vortex Pulleys you have. Go to a hardware store and bring your the bolt that held the pulley on and get a longer one. 2.5 or 3 inch. You can use it to press the COGs on and use it as your new COG Drive pulley bolt.

Next: If you don't want to through belts you have to brace the 1/4 aluminum plate the SC is mounted to. It flexes under gas. We want to stop the flexing. These pics are from Osiris: http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...1-img-1288.jpg

The gold hex rod is attached to the plate and to the firewall and is adjustable to enable you to get the belt to ride in the center of the pulleys.
http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...0-img-1286.jpg

This is what I will use as my adjustable rod, you can get it off any chopper site that sells springer brake parts.
http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...9-img-0684.jpg

I'll fab up a mounting plate and fire wall tabs to bolt it on..

Hope this helps, please let me know if you need more.. Ck out the photo album. Rep if you like.. :tiphat:

What's annoying is to see a custom built motor and water/meth on an outdated kit. Put that thing to good use. If you guys wanna help him with that beast go get some groceries go ahead.. It's annoying to see such potential go to waste.. Carry on guys, don't forget to hold hands while u cross the street!

He explained why, but you still continue to bash. High five buddy!

Should look like this when your done mounting them:http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...4-img-0685.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...5-img-0686.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...6-img-0687.jpg

Then painted to color match the car..http://www.the370z.com/members/nut_n...7-img-0689.jpg

Good DIY KellyFields pointed me to is this: wortmeister re-wrote the Stillen Direction to help ID problem areas not written about by Stillen.. http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...tructions.html

:happydance:

Very nice! That is going to look so sick!

Thats funny, you sure do ask a lot of questions in your public profile, last time I check, didn't see anyone give you a hard time in there. Do you do your own work or do you pay for someone to do it for you aka GreenGoblen and you put this guy down for working through it him self. Good job hope you feel good about your self, carry one !!!

Nice project. Glad to see these viable kits being used. 450+hp feels great no matter what the source is.

Haters gonna hate...! LOL!

Coop

Didn't know he built his motor, good job on that OP. I paid my buddy Greengoblin to install my turbo kit. I also clearly stated that so don't know what you're getting there, but keep trying cuz ur failing. Simply said its sad to see the potential of this motor being toned down. If u guys wanna help this monster get groceries go ahead, it's still sad.
Anymore public info u find out and care to re-repeat after I post it go right ahead Captain Obvious.

Nobody asked your opinion on the build. If he wanted to know what you think of the potential of his system obviously he wouldve asked.

Nice build bro Id love to see the results. Those cogs can be a bitch. Bearing puller like up top should get you right. its really straight forward tho.

Wow good to see that other people helping out on the forum I get pm'ed all the time about the cogs, that's what a forum is all about helping. Nissan now that you have the cog's you will have to upgrade your maf's they will max out very easy. With the Meth and the smaller pulley I think you may see 14 plus psi just make sure the tune is on point.

thxs for the pictures and the help guys
i will keep you posted frank over at hills garage is going to look into it
and trust me if i had the money right now to drop another 9k on another kit i would but elperuano i do take donations

anyways if i mange to squeeze out 500rwhp on this car with this weak kit i can live with that my goal was never 1000hp car

yes built motor is over kill but as long as the tune is good the motor will be the last thing to break as it will never be near its max

i will take reliability over power anyday

ps. i am sure that one ride in mr. squeeze's car will make me delete this post

this is very rare for me to call people out but....


dude.... who the f*ck are u?

chill out bro. not your build, not your problem. stop trollin

Get off my nuts troller, ur doin the same thing now. I'll wait for ur dreamer thread. It's a public forum so deal with it.

It's his build and his problem. Ur right everyone's here to learn and this is one of the funny ones to me. I needed a good laugh.

im just saying, why are u on this thread contributing nothing but negativity and telling people what they are doing wrong?? can't people just do their own thing?


back on topic:


what kinda torque are u looking at making with this upgraded cog set?

Just some normal criticism... IMHO it seems like overkill. I will say I think this is one of the firsts if not the first built motor on a supercharger kit in all Nissan/Infiniti forums.
I wonder if OP asked for advice before the built motor and told everyone it was for a supercharger. The killer on motors is torque and superchargera don't make any torque. He could have saved himself lot of money. Simple criticism.. Grow some skin, lotta whiteknights up in here.

Back on topic - I doubt the torque is gonna change much. He'll need to work the hell outta that supercharger to get the low compression motor moving.

Dude stop being offensive.. building the engine on SC is not overkill "IMHO". whats overkill is you being on this thread..

If you don't have anything nice to say then scroll down and click on another thread.

If he sees 14 psi, the built motor's not overkill. His sig says he was making 436/340 at 9 psi. 14 psi would put him deep in the 500s, which is where I'd want the additional security of a motor built to handle boost.

14 PSI will get him close. I made 457 an 330 at 10 PSI. An can we stay on topic here.

I didn't have to upgrade my maf's for the cogs to work. I'm running around 11.7psi. but i think if you are trying to go over 12psi you may have to.

Either way, you have to get a re-tune after installing the cogs, i don't think that was mentioned yet in this thread.

yea we doing a retune with the cogs and water-meth injection
my tuner wants to get a dual intake pipe fab done to move the maf after the blower and keep the stillen intake
if i was to get a larger heat exchange and coolant reserve i think the cooling will be fine i will move the coolant reserve to the trunk maybe

I maxed my Maf's out @ 6600 rpms with the cogs and impeller . If I remember correctly didn't you just do the cog pulleys by them self and not the impeller ?

correct, no impeller upgrade on mine.

is this way better than using a 2.5-2.75" pulley? Im afraid of overheating because mine is a 7AT.

That had to be why didn't max the Maf's out not moving as much air because you didn't have the impeller .

so with the cog pullies whats the smallest you can go. never mine looks like 27 on the supercharger is the smallest.

I ran a 30 sc pulley 34 jackshaft pulley this worked best for belt tension . I saw 11.5 psi on the 8 pound Stillen pulley with that combo , with the smaller pulley you should see at least 14 psi

He should make some good power with 14 psi:tup:

Thanks for posting that ifo about the MAFs. I did to the impeller and didn't think I would max them out. Good to know, I was looking at the UPREV MAFs. Is there type you recommend for these builds?

The uprev Maf's are fine I have those now on my car,the reason the maf's max out so easy with the impeller is the small intake pipe. With my TT set up I got a around 550whp before the were maxed because of the bigger piping.

plus for what Mr. Squeeze said, I have the UPREV MAFS also

hey anmvq is that the size i got off you 34 jackshaft 30 supercharger?
also mr squeeze did you have any problem with the belt moving around on your setup?

i saw that brace being used in the picture to help with flexing of the bracket

anyway if i can get this thing on and working i will drop down to there smallest size and see what it does just playing around with this kit a little more before i go turbo i mean it would be nice to be one of the few guys that got a stillen pass the 500 mark just for sh*ts and giggles

the only reason i am not taking that kit off my car and going twin turbo today, right now is because i have a lot of money tied up into a second house and my wife would kill me
if it was not for that i would sell that stillen and be on the phone with sam

so in the mean time i am going to keep upgrading everything else clutch\flywheel , fuel system, maf, ect so when i do go turbo everything for big power will be in place

I have to warn you be careful hoping with two small cog pulleys, the cog belt won't fit . I had to learn this the hard way I wasted money on pulleys tell I figured out the right combo of pulleys. Also this combo will put the supercharger at its limit with the impeller and smaller Stillen pulley .

Would really love to hear the steps u take to make ur motor safe if u ever decide to go TT!