Will this even be available as a kit? Quick search suggests these are in-house installs only. If that makes reasonable (but not crazy) power and is inexpensive due to few
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Will this even be available as a kit? Quick search suggests these are in-house installs only.
If that makes reasonable (but not crazy) power and is inexpensive due to few components, this would make a great kit -- especially for those of us with AT who are leery of risking the trans.
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Also, 80hp falls nicely between simple bolt-ons and the lowest current FI applications. If they could get the price right, there could be a good market here.
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Someone has gotta explain the goofi IC piping routing tho. it looks like the left bank would get no boost
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The efficiency of this supercharger due to the piping would be lower than that of a quality kit with better routing. This lower efficiency means the engine is going to have to work harder to feed itself air which will be unevenly distributed between cylinders.
Also its not rocket science to know that if one side has more pressure than the other it will get more air and thus run leaner. One side of the engine is essentially going to drag the other side along creating added stress, and like mentioned above heat.
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Those intake pipes do look retarded, but remember that it's an open plenum. I would still prefer both sides be even.
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Yes, the design is really awkward, and air doesn't like to flow through sharp turns -- BUT, the distance to the TB is so short, so I bet the effect is pretty negligible.
The alternative would be a longer length of piping. Responsiveness is probably better here with the shorter, albeit less than ideal, piping angle. Probably not much room either -- note the flattened section of piping on the SC outlet piping -- that's much more of a travesty to me than the sharp bend. Also that sharp bend isn't going to have much of an effect on heat (I think someone implied that?) -- that's really all down to compressor efficiency. Assuming that's actually Nm of tq, 412 Nm = 304 lbft, which looks to be about the value for torque and power if it crossed at 5252.
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Looks like they are using the NOVI Paxton supercharger in this kit.
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Yes the power is in PS and the torque is in Nm... so you arent going to see them cross at 5252 unless you convert the numbers.
The piping looks stupid. Does it matter? Little to none since its an open plenum anyway. Both throttle bodies are leading to the same place.. you would probably be at very high airflow levels before you saw one bank running different than the other. It may be funny to look at the MAF voltage bias.. but I highly doubt it would matter anyway. The HP is decent for no intercooler so probably low boost. But the market for its going to be pretty low... people know they can make a lot more power with a higher boost intercooled setup with piping that is more symmetrical and pleasing to the eye. This kit could be remedied with an intercooler. Send that SC discharge to the front bumper and divide the IC outlet with 2 ends tanks and bring the pipes up symmetrically. Then you are in good shape! PS: never seen anyone run the MAFs so close to the throttles. Couldn't get any closer than that. Who knows... if it works it works. Id be curious how it behaves when the throttles shut rapidly. |
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