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What's the sales tax on 30 grand? And do fries come with that?
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This is just sad.
It seems to happen often that Someone comes on here and Complains about GTM... GTM, I have wanted a Kit from you guys, but the record isn't looking good. I wanted to order one about a year ago, when The post came out about the guy that bought a BRAND NEW kit and got a USED kit.. That stopped me back then. |
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did i miss something
did gtm have a twin supercharger kit laying around in april lol this was a r&d build right ,man if you guys can pull r&d work out you azz in a month your good ![]()
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For every post that you see about a nightmare there are probably 20 cars that are running fine. I am a customer of GTM. I purchased a Stage I TT from them in April 2011. I installed it myself in my garage. We're there problems? Yup. Anytime that you heavily modify a car you're gonna run into issues. I have to be honest here but most if the issues that I had we're of my own doing. There were some alignment issues I was dealing with for a while and I was convinced that it was a quality issue. Sam always dealt with me fairly. He even sent me another set of pipes even though he was convinced that there was nothing wrong with the first set. Sam worked with me to fix a hot start issue with my original tune. It took a couple of tries but that car started perfectly when it was all settled. Now so that I don't sound like a complete nut hugger I will say that sometimes communication is difficult if you only try to contact him thru email. But if you pick up the phone and call you'll have much better luck getting in touch with him. Do your homework and you will be much happier in the long run. I have since sold my Z and the new owner is enjoying the car as much as I did. The car has over 10,000 miles of boost and no major issues. Bottom line is that I would not hesitate to do business with GTM again. But the next time Ill take what I have learned and do an even better job with the install. I really want a 600 whp G sedan. ![]()
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When **** like this happens, it makes baby Jesus cry.
I am sympathetic to both sides of the transaction as from what I can tell seems like nothing short of a HUUUGE lack of communication from both parties and not necessarily anyone being a pain in the *** or trying to rip someone off.... When in doubt, take it to Judge Judy. ![]()
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Wowzers. Sharing a bad experience is one thing...trying to destroy a company's reputation is not cool. As with anything involving large sums of money, there should have been a detailed contract written, signed & notarized by both parties involved. It would have shown all preliminary cost estimate for parts, installation and time frame.
GTM would not be liable for time lost with the car for the simple fact that the OP knowingly went into this project with a lot of uncertainties pertaining to a yet unreleased product. Simply put, the OP left his car with GTM voluntarily. Unless GTM sent something in writing that says the car MUST be at thier shop by a certain date, the OP isn't entitled a dime for not having the car for so many months. Sucks to hear about projects collapsing like this, but its never just one side's fault. There's three sides to every story...
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It's pretty simple then, isn't it? There's a certain amount of risk involved and you have very few legal actions available should something go wrong. Contracts are required when someone has work done at the dealership. It protects both parties in case the unexpected happens. I guess my point is that at the end of the day, you chose to have the work done. If a vendor can't sign something with the basic expectations from both sides, I wouldn't want to do business with them.
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So 1 thing I want to point out is 30 grand was not for the dual supercharger. There are many many other things being done to this car. Suspention, Exhaust, Port Injection, Body Wrap, Gauges. There us over 14 grand in other crap. I think OP bit off more than he could chew.
And to think that all labor was going to be free is insane. Last edited by marrim; 09-26-2012 at 07:54 PM. |
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It is the industry standard to not deliver projects on time. Most of this comes from the fact that shops aren't staffed with project managers who can correctly estimate time and plot that against the other work they have already committed to. I applaud the OP for holding a shop to an agreed upon timetable. If he is successful in “extorting” a lost use refund, it should make GTM put more effort into project time estimation.
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I can't believe someone would buy a kit not knowing what he/she really wanted, and I can't believe someone would sell a kit to someone who did not know what they wanted. No wonder this failed.
Shame on both parties.
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