Recommended supercharger setup?

luigi90210

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering what are the ups and downs of both the stillen kit and the gtm kit

I have been researching and from what I can gather is that with the stillen kit, in order to make the advertised power, you will over spin the supercharger vs the gtm kit where that wont happen

Can anyone confirm what I have found and possibly inform me about both kits in further detail?

I want to go with the gtm kit but because of carb laws, I would prefer it if I didnt have to pay extra for a smog check(if you know what i mean). The only thing I dont like about the stillen kit is that it makes the engine bay look flashy, I like the clean look of the engine bay as is but I can live with it because I dont look at my engine bay to often.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Luigi90210

Lug

OK, let me be clear. The GTM/Stillen kit is the greatest thing since the invention of the automobile whilst the Stillen/GTM kit is an utter piece of crap, not worthy to wipe my posterior with. The Stillen/GTM kit is constructed of the highest quality material where as the GTM/Stillen kit is just thrown together with whatever they had around the shop that day. The GTM/Stillen kit will net you around 500 hp easy but the Stillen/GTM kit will actually rob you and leave you with less power than stock. Don't listen to the GTM/Stillen fanboi's, they are paid to lie about their product. If you don't listen to me, you are probably a nitwit/nin-com-poop and don't even deserve the quality associated with the Stillen/GTM kit....good day!

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ANMVQ

LOL not sure the guy above me is serious or not, But WHERE did or WHO told you, You had to over spin the Stillen Sc to make the advertised power, That is a BS statement, Their tune is the issue, My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power,, Just make sure you have the facts right, GTM is a good kit, Still not sold on the MAF location ( Heard some things from some tuners)- I have seen 1 Stillen boom story and that guys was running headers( Not recommended) and a handful of GTM boom stories,

If it where me, I think a changed my mind from before and would have went the way I did, Stillen, Carb legal and will make good power. Myself and EVOkiller are push these to 500WHP or trying anyway, LOL

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Lug

Dude, I'm totally serious/not-serious!

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weiboy718

Where did you see all the GTM supercharged that went boom from? As far as I know there isn't even one. Pls show proof!

SAM@GTM

You have completely lost any credibility here because you are willing to do anything and say anything to support your point. You are willing to make things up and lie to mislead people with your statements...especially when it comes to people that are looking for unbiased opinions. Your view is so skewed and far removed from reality it is frightening.

Here's an example:

Your statement today:

Your statement 6 months ago:

from this thread you started: Stillen service reveiw .BAD

Here's your dyno graph before the tune and here's your dyno graph after the tune and this is from your own posting:


Keep in mind that you are always on a load bearing dyno which can have too many variables and allows the operator to make the numbers higher or lower at a whim. You have lost your mind so much that you have stated that a Dynojet number is inflated numbers. Keep in mind that the Dynojet is the industry standard dyno since you can't mess with the numbers and the car will read the same Dynojet to Dynojet. They are 100% consistent every time.

Then you stoop to a new low by making stuff up and stating that there are multiple blown engines on our GTM Supercharger kit. Please enlighten me and list and backup your statement.

The only failure I am aware of is the one in Saudi Arabia when it was 140 degree weather while he was racing an AMG C63 in the desert at over 180kph...before he had gone through the verification and data logging process or dyno testing to ensure the AFR was spot on. Besides, if you are planning on going 180kph in 50 degree celsius engine, a stock engine simply cannot take it. Furthermore, this guy is so dissatisfied with our kit that he is buying our GTM 4.2L Stroker Long Block, GTM Stage 4 Transmission, GTM Stage 3 Supercharger Upgrade, GTM Return Fuel System, and our GTM Direct Port Water/Methanol Injection system.

In closing, I really don't enjoy doing this to you or anyone for that matter. You have called me for advice, I have tried to help you over the phone with some input even though you are not our customer. You just leave me with no choice.

To the OP, I'm sorry to ruin your thread. There is some good information on here that will help you make a good decision. Here are some dyno graphs of both the Stillen Kit and our GTM Kit on the same car on the same dyno. What you will notice is that our kit is superior in all aspects straight out of the box. The dyno graphs below speak volumes.


Sam

luigi90210

Thanks sam for the info, I have always been interested in the GTM kit but because of carb laws, its not my preferred choice.
i know i have a few years before i have to smog but when that time comes i dont want to get flagged by my tester.

Oh I was wondering if i could inquire some information about the 4.5L stroker kit as well, I was thinking I could do that instead of going with a supercharger and make about the same power, im just looking for a little more omph in my car, nothing to crazy but i couldnt find anything on google about the kit aside from the gtm website and some youtube videos of a 350z with the 4.5L stroker kit and twin turbos

I am just wondering if it will pass a sniffer test if i have cats installed, how reliable is it, and if i can put boltons on the car(like a new exhaust, downpipes, heads, cams, ect.) and i am wondering if that would be a better way about going and building my car instead of going with a supercharger?

Thanks
luigi90210

Mr.Squeeze

The stroker kit will cost you more than the supcharger and I doubt you would even match the power output.

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luigi90210

its as my favorite character Gin Rummy has said "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of of absence" and that "there are known knowns and known unknowns, but there are also unknown unknowns, [things] that we dont know that we dont know"

but in all seriousness, if GTM doesnt know about the blown engines than how will they ever know unless it is brought to their attention in detail

im pretty sure there are unspoken stories of engines blowing with the stillen kit as well as the gtm kit, heck im pretty sure there are unspoken stories of people blowing their engines while its stock, but if no one knows about them than no one will ever know if it truly existed or not

you have a point there.... im pretty sure the stroker kit would offer the least bang for my buck but i dont want to close off any options

ZKraken22

why do you doubt it?

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speedfreek

Nice open ended statement....sure you could of meant "well-educated awesome human being" or of course it could go more like "nuthugger followed by this icon " I guess we will never know since we are left with . . . ... and we are not mind readers

Maybe you don't understand the statements you are making when you think you are just debating to a forum member which SC to go with and why. But when you throw out that Stillen has a near perfect run with installed kits with only 1 known failure and then claim GTM has multiple with no facts to back it other than a location of one of them. But as the facts rolled in on the latter it was due to carelessness by the owner and not the kit. I am not saying do not debate but be more careful with your statements and know that something as serious as someone elses business who live and die by others perception of their name and business as a whole is not to be taken lightly. Don't go throwing out accusations without the facts in events such as these.

Instead your original statement should of looked like this:

All good info from your own experience, while eliminating the unnecessary. As you see I am in the market to purchase one of these kits in the future and could be sold one way or the other still. If there were a handful of boom stories I sure would like to read about them to determine which way to go when the time comes. Good luck on making the 500WHP you are shooting for.

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ANMVQ

WOw man would call Troll if you didnt have more post than me. LOL

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Osiris

if you're prepared to spend the extra $$ to upgrade the inferior parts that come with the Stillen kit, then go that way. If i had to do it over again, i most certainly would have gone a different route.

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weiboy718

What up man! You're still alive! Hows the car treating ya?

Osiris

Yep! Engine hasn't blown up yet (knock on wood)!! Just savin up for more mods

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