Recommended supercharger setup?

Liquid_G

Just my 2 cents for the OP..

My Z has the GTM Stage1 SC kit. Self installed in my garage last spring. Using GTM's standard tune.

Over 10K miles later, including a recent road trip from Chicago to NY, not a single issue with the kit.

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Nissan370

If I could do it over I would have went with gtm no question
There is no growth with the stillen kit without massive modification of the kit
Not get me wrong it's a ok kit for a set. Hp range about 400 or so but once you start trying to get more power you run into many road blocks one being that
Weak water-air cooler setup for starters my car was pulling timing because the intake air was not getting cool enuff

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370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out)

luigi90210

would you recommend the stillen supercharger if someone wasnt looking to go all out on their car, and just keeping the kit as is(aside from mods like HFCs and full catback exhaust)?

i dont plan on making this a 10sec car, just a fun car that will be a good track day car

EVOHUNTER

This kit is not carb approved, but the workmanship is really good.
JMAC put down 512whp on 93 oct at 8.0 psi i think? put 550whp at 9.4 psi?
something like that. I think overall this is the best kit out there, for parts and craftsmanship, sasha does it all himself, and hes one of the best welders ive ever seen. The install is super easy, The price is really good aswell.

Boosted Performance single turbo build

look here ^

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Mike@GTM

So, we called you out on your false claim and the best you can come back with is "you removed them from the internet"? Really? Man, not even the US Government has that kind of power. Get real.

Do you even know what "out of the box" means? When you buy a "complete" kit, install it and test it on a dyno the results are "out of the box". Not install it, test it, realize that it doesn't perform as advertised, have it custom tuned to make more power and then say "out of the box".

Seriously, you took a kit that was advertised as 515hp and when it made 100hp less than advertised, you got it tuned and then claimed that the custom tune is "out of the box". That's like saying you bought a brand new 370Z, dyno tested it, made XXX whp, custom tuned it and then say that it made YYY whp "off the showroom floor".

Also, last time I checked Stillen's website, it does not say that you have to get the car custom tuned to make their advertised horsepower.

BTW, I never claimed that we're perfect. Just that we don't ever stop trying to be better than everyone else out there. So far, we're succeeding.

On the subject of mechanical differences, there are numerous points to speak on.

1) MAF Location: We use a blow through setup that reads the airflow after the supercharger and intercooler. This allows the ECU to know exactly what the air temperature is going into the engine. The ECU is then able to pull timing and add fuel if the air is too hot in order to prevent detonation from occurring. The competition placed the MAF sensors in two small diameter tubes directly in the front of the car and before the supercharger. In that configuration, the ECU is reading the coolest possible air and has no idea that the system is heat soaked. As a result, the ECU mistakenly advances ignition timing thinking that the air is nice and cool. That can and frequently does result in detonation. While the knock sensor will detect the detonation and pull timing, relying on the knock sensor to do your tuning for you is not a good way to have long engine life.

2) Belt Slip: Our kit uses the factory automatic belt tensioner to maintain optimum tension to eliminate belt slip. Our competition uses a manual belt tensioner and has had belt slip issues.

3) Intercooler: Our kit uses a large air-to-air intercooler mounted in the front of the car. The advantage of an air-to-air intercooler compared the competition's water-to-air intercooler is that an air-to-air intercooler is much lighter in total system weight. This is due to the water-to-air intercooler's need to have water in the system, a separate reservoir for water (for additional heat capacity) and a pump to move the water through the system. A disadvantage of water to air also lies in its advantage. Water is an excellent conductor of heat and a high heat capacity. Heat capacity is a double edged sword in that once is has a lot of heat in it, it is challenging to remove it. Water-to-air intercoolers are notorious for heat soak: when the system is saturated with heat and cannot dissipate it fast enough. This is a huge disadvantage on a race track when running long sessions as the system will heat soak after a few laps. While it is true that an air-to-air system is also vulnerable to heat soak, it's lower heat capacity enables it to dissipate heat faster once the thermal load has been stopped.

4) Power Expansion: We support our supercharger kit and offer the means for people to increase their power output with our system should they desire more. The competition does not.


ROFLMAO!!

Seriously, the correct information is in the first post in the link you provided. There's no need for you to think...just read and parrot back the right information.

JMac88

This thread is full of fail. OP, all of the respected vendors have threads with lots of info in them, you really should read each one carefully as this thread is full of bad info and childish name calling.
STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!
GTM Performance Engineering 370Z SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE
STS 370Z Single Turbo System
Boosted Performance single turbo build
GTM Performance Engineering: GTM TD05 16G Test Results 91 Octane 7AT
S&R Performance First Single Turbo

Your best bet is to pick some kits that you like and to actually PM people who have the kits you are interested in. Unfortunately on this forum, if you pick a kit that someone deems to not be their choice they will jump all over you.

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luigi90210

i saw that earlier, it looks very promising, if i move out of the state thats definitely something i will be looking into as far as turbos go

thanks for the info ill check them out, i have been talking with some people i know personally and on youtube(yes i know it sounds stupid but i found someone who had a stillen supercharger in their 370z before switching to a twin turbo setup) and it looks like i might be going stillen just because its carb legal, i prefer to keep everything legal, the last thing i would want is to have to dismantle my car to pass a full inspection at the smog referees station and pay a ticket for illegal mods on a car

if carb didnt exist i probably would have gone with a turbo setup just because i use to own a turbo eclipse before this car so i know how to maintain a turbo, plus the sound of the BOV is just amazing

Nissan370

dont be fooled by carb legal dude your car will be running rich with that stillen tune
and any changing to that tune will void it
if your going to do it do it right we all know once you get a taste of power you always want a little more

i would not pay for that kit less i got a real good deal on it

hell i will be selling mine in a few months was going to work on tring to get the kit to work but i am not going to waste the money just going to pull it off the car i just dont like how hot my intake manifold is getting and thats just asking for problems down the line

the coolant tank and heat exchange it just way to small i am not going to risk the build motor i just had installed

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370z vsr motorsports single turbo/built motor 9.1cr 525rwhp/450rwtq @ 10.5psi (stock maf maxed out)

luigi90210

well its either go the legal way or pay $500 everytime i have to smog and prey that i dont get caught and that my hook up guy wont turn me in or stop being a hook up guy

im sure you're right though, once i start making power i probably wont stop XD

MMC Racing

Legally this is true, but once you have the carb certified kit and the mechanicals of the kit stay the same, the actually tune isn't going to get you caught.

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blackonorange

OP , I love my STS kit it cost me 7 large ( canadian) shipped to Canada. it's great , it's reliable makes good power ( 450 whp and 370 trq on 8.5 psi). STS treats me great as well. Now that being said, boosted performances kit is unreal it is more money but you'll be at the limits of the engine pretty damn quick due to how efficient it is. Looking back I don't regret going STS one bit , I can't even put the power to the road on 5 psi let alone 8.5. If I was you I'd look at either of these kits.

EVOHUNTER

I wrote the post, then provided the link.
Thanks tho, i dont know what we would do without you mike!!
Are u upset i said the boosted kit is better than your kit? aaahhh muffin, You'll get over it.

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edub370

i got a better idea... lets all argue in circles some more

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NitrousZ34

Did someone say bacon???

Zoren 370

Good Advertisement very informative minus the bashing.
Liking it more info pls.