Recommended supercharger setup?

MMC Racing · 09-06-2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718

You still got plenty of yrs to play before your car is due for your first smog. Why worried about it now? Mines is due very soon and I'm not even worried about it.

The bigger hassle is getting pulled over and the cop deciding to say pop the hood. He writes up a ref ticket on modified emissions. Then you have to come out of pocket for $500+ to pay the fine instead of removing the kit and hope to not get pulled over again.

weiboy718 · 09-06-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

The bigger hassle is getting pulled over and the cop deciding to say pop the hood. He writes up a ref ticket on modified emissions. Then you have to come out of pocket for $500+ to pay the fine instead of removing the kit and hope to not get pulled over again.

I know what you mean! I can tell you this though if the cop want's to give you a ticket he will give you a ticket even with the CARB sticker. I've seen it happened before.

Just don't drive like an @$$ and usually there won't be any issues.

Huck · 09-06-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM

You have completely lost any credibility here because you are willing to do anything and say anything to support your point. You are willing to make things up and lie to mislead people with your statements...especially when it comes to people that are looking for unbiased opinions. Your view is so skewed and far removed from reality it is frightening.

Here's an example:

Your statement today:

Your statement 6 months ago:

from this thread you started: Stillen service reveiw .BAD

Here's your dyno graph before the tune and here's your dyno graph after the tune and this is from your own posting:

Keep in mind that you are always on a load bearing dyno which can have too many variables and allows the operator to make the numbers higher or lower at a whim. You have lost your mind so much that you have stated that a Dynojet number is inflated numbers. Keep in mind that the Dynojet is the industry standard dyno since you can't mess with the numbers and the car will read the same Dynojet to Dynojet. They are 100% consistent every time.

Then you stoop to a new low by making stuff up and stating that there are multiple blown engines on our GTM Supercharger kit. Please enlighten me and list and backup your statement.

The only failure I am aware of is the one in Saudi Arabia when it was 140 degree weather while he was racing an AMG C63 in the desert at over 180kph...before he had gone through the verification and data logging process or dyno testing to ensure the AFR was spot on. Besides, if you are planning on going 180kph in 50 degree celsius engine, a stock engine simply cannot take it. Furthermore, this guy is so dissatisfied with our kit that he is buying our GTM 4.2L Stroker Long Block, GTM Stage 4 Transmission, GTM Stage 3 Supercharger Upgrade, GTM Return Fuel System, and our GTM Direct Port Water/Methanol Injection system.

In closing, I really don't enjoy doing this to you or anyone for that matter. You have called me for advice, I have tried to help you over the phone with some input even though you are not our customer. You just leave me with no choice.

To the OP, I'm sorry to ruin your thread. There is some good information on here that will help you make a good decision. Here are some dyno graphs of both the Stillen Kit and our GTM Kit on the same car on the same dyno. What you will notice is that our kit is superior in all aspects straight out of the box. The dyno graphs below speak volumes.

Sam

BOOM.

#FUCKYEAHGTM

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Osiris · 09-07-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck

BOOM.

#FUCKYEAHGTM

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really? could you not edit out all the screenshots?

Huck · 09-07-2012, 12:22 AM

Didn't even think about it really, I'm on tapatalk so I just hit quote, and it doesn't show the whole quote, just the bottom HTML code. Sorry lol

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weiboy718 · 09-07-2012, 12:24 AM

Just so some of you guys know those DYNO graphs Sam posted was from my car.

NitrousZ34 · 09-07-2012, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

The bigger hassle is getting pulled over and the cop deciding to say pop the hood. He writes up a ref ticket on modified emissions. Then you have to come out of pocket for $500+ to pay the fine instead of removing the kit and hope to not get pulled over again.

A ref ticket isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is. When i got reffed a year ago i only paid $130 for my ticket and when my hood was popped i had every bolt on part for my Z including the nitrous lines going into the intake.

ANMVQ · 09-07-2012, 09:20 AM

did not even want to reply to Sam but what ever, There are no lies in my statements, the 352WHP was NO TUNE. their tune. I'm glad you have a SC kit for us and was happy you tired to help me on the phone. Really I have NEVER once told someone Stillen was better than GTM just another option, Just cause the service sux and there are never on here to say anything is their choice, Remember when I wanted to buy your kit, Almost bought it with you on the phone, The carb thing and dealer warrenty thing, where reasons I did not, Just saying people have options other than your kit, you have a lot of cluot on here, All these guys run you kit , YES it makes good power but just casue someone else, (ME) doesnt and has different opions I get put out there and thats cool, I'm a big boy I can handle it. But we should try to keep the OP thread on topic, He was asking for REAL advice I was trying to help. Funny how you took offense to it. EH it is what it is,

speedfreek · 09-07-2012, 10:30 AM

I think the graphs speak volumes for each kit. I know when it's time to pull the trigger on a kit I am going with GTM. They have been proven time and time again they can make the stated power. It doesn't bode well for Stillen when all you hear is about bad customer service, inferior parts out of the box, bad tune delivered (this is the lesser of evils as I would be getting a custom tune anyway). But with that still the tune should be somewhat close and I feel the bad tune that is delivered is way off.

I don't understand the bashing of GTM with their contributions to the community. It is way off base to slam them without all the facts to back it up. It makes it seem one is trying to justify their purchase to say the other is inferior in some way even if it is all make believe in their own head.

ANMVQ · 09-07-2012, 10:41 AM

Nice you are going GTM no one is bashing, But GLAD to see another . . . ...

speedfreek · 09-07-2012, 11:16 AM

Nice open ended statement....sure you could of meant "well-educated awesome human being" or of course it could go more like "nuthugger followed by this icon

" I guess we will never know since we are left with . . . ... and we are not mind readers

Maybe you don't understand the statements you are making when you think you are just debating to a forum member which SC to go with and why. But when you throw out that Stillen has a near perfect run with installed kits with only 1 known failure and then claim GTM has multiple with no facts to back it other than a location of one of them. But as the facts rolled in on the latter it was due to carelessness by the owner and not the kit. I am not saying do not debate but be more careful with your statements and know that something as serious as someone elses business who live and die by others perception of their name and business as a whole is not to be taken lightly. Don't go throwing out accusations without the facts in events such as these.

Instead your original statement should of looked like this:

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

LOL not sure the guy above me is serious or not, But WHERE did or WHO told you, You had to over spin the Stillen Sc to make the advertised power, That is a BS statement, Their tune is the issue, My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power,, Just make sure you have the facts right, GTM is a good kit, Still not sold on the MAF location (need to do more research) ( Heard some things from some tuners)- I have seen 1 Stillen boom story and that guys was running headers( Not recommended) and a handful of GTM boom stories,

If it where me, I think a changed my mind from before and would have went the way I did, Stillen, Carb legal and will make good power. Myself and EVOkiller are push these to 500WHP or trying anyway, LOL

All good info from your own experience, while eliminating the unnecessary. As you see I am in the market to purchase one of these kits in the future and could be sold one way or the other still. If there were a handful of boom stories I sure would like to read about them to determine which way to go when the time comes. Good luck on making the 500WHP you are shooting for.

jezeka777 · 09-07-2012, 12:44 PM

WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS

Huck · 09-07-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jezeka777

WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS

Because, to quote training day, "some niggas iz always trying to ice skate uphill".

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EVOHUNTER · 09-07-2012, 01:29 PM

I dont believe for 1 second, that gtm hasnt had a motor blow...
I have a friends 370 motor go, he had the stage 1 kit gtm kit...
Before every gtm fan gets there panties in a bunch, ill state that
his motor blew from an inproper tune (not the kit or reliablity of the kit)
He pushed it with meth injection, and crazy timing.. aswell, the tuner has a bad rep
and will always have a bad rep.
Again he wasnt using Sam's tune, but thats his choice.
How do we know 100% sure motors havent blown up, we dont know.
Maybe the guy isnt part of this forum? maybe the guy has no interest in beening on the forum. maybe the motor blew, and he just sucked it up and started the rebiuld.
And never contacted GTM. So to say youve never had a motor blow is out of the question.
In all reality, you cant say youve never had a motor blow.
Again, im not here to bash on GTM, they make a great product and from what ive heard, have great service. If i could go back in time, i would go gtm but its said and done now.

Mike@GTM · 09-07-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

I dont believe for 1 second, that gtm hasnt had a motor blow...
I have a friends 370 motor go, he had the stage 1 kit gtm kit...
Before every gtm fan gets there panties in a bunch, ill state that
his motor blew from an inproper tune (not the kit or reliablity of the kit)
He pushed it with meth injection, and crazy timing.. aswell, the tuner has a bad rep
and will always have a bad rep.
Again he wasnt using Sam's tune, but thats his choice.
How do we know 100% sure motors havent blown up, we dont know.
Maybe the guy isnt part of this forum? maybe the guy has no interest in beening on the forum. maybe the motor blew, and he just sucked it up and started the rebiuld.
And never contacted GTM. So to say youve never had a motor blow is out of the question.
In all reality, you cant say youve never had a motor blow.
Again, im not here to bash on GTM, they make a great product and from what ive heard, have great service. If i could go back in time, i would go gtm but its said and done now.

If you read Sam's post, you would plainly see that he said that there is one engine failure with our supercharger kit that we know of. We never said what you are implying. I invite you to read a little more carefully before jumping to conclusions and making incorrect statements when the facts are right in front of you.

09-07-2012, 12:22 AM	#35 (permalink)
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09-07-2012, 09:20 AM	#38 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	did not even want to reply to Sam but what ever, There are no lies in my statements, the 352WHP was NO TUNE. their tune. I'm glad you have a SC kit for us and was happy you tired to help me on the phone. Really I have NEVER once told someone Stillen was better than GTM just another option, Just cause the service sux and there are never on here to say anything is their choice, Remember when I wanted to buy your kit, Almost bought it with you on the phone, The carb thing and dealer warrenty thing, where reasons I did not, Just saying people have options other than your kit, you have a lot of cluot on here, All these guys run you kit , YES it makes good power but just casue someone else, (ME) doesnt and has different opions I get put out there and thats cool, I'm a big boy I can handle it. But we should try to keep the OP thread on topic, He was asking for REAL advice I was trying to help. Funny how you took offense to it. EH it is what it is, __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda, Last edited by ANMVQ; 09-07-2012 at 09:30 AM.

09-07-2012, 10:30 AM	#39 (permalink)
speedfreek A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 1,724 Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp Rep Power: 18	I think the graphs speak volumes for each kit. I know when it's time to pull the trigger on a kit I am going with GTM. They have been proven time and time again they can make the stated power. It doesn't bode well for Stillen when all you hear is about bad customer service, inferior parts out of the box, bad tune delivered (this is the lesser of evils as I would be getting a custom tune anyway). But with that still the tune should be somewhat close and I feel the bad tune that is delivered is way off. I don't understand the bashing of GTM with their contributions to the community. It is way off base to slam them without all the facts to back it up. It makes it seem one is trying to justify their purchase to say the other is inferior in some way even if it is all make believe in their own head. __________________ Tomei\|Berk\|Takeda\|ZSpeed\|Fortune Auto\|Swift\|Eibach\|SPL\|Carbotech\|Motul\|Powertrix\|Stillen\|Aerojacket\|Z1\|Forgestar\|Enkei\|Project Kics\|Nismo Ti\|Llumar speedfreek's journal

09-07-2012, 10:41 AM	#40 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	Nice you are going GTM no one is bashing, But GLAD to see another . . . ... __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

09-07-2012, 01:29 PM	#44 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	I dont believe for 1 second, that gtm hasnt had a motor blow... I have a friends 370 motor go, he had the stage 1 kit gtm kit... Before every gtm fan gets there panties in a bunch, ill state that his motor blew from an inproper tune (not the kit or reliablity of the kit) He pushed it with meth injection, and crazy timing.. aswell, the tuner has a bad rep and will always have a bad rep. Again he wasnt using Sam's tune, but thats his choice. How do we know 100% sure motors havent blown up, we dont know. Maybe the guy isnt part of this forum? maybe the guy has no interest in beening on the forum. maybe the motor blew, and he just sucked it up and started the rebiuld. And never contacted GTM. So to say youve never had a motor blow is out of the question. In all reality, you cant say youve never had a motor blow. Again, im not here to bash on GTM, they make a great product and from what ive heard, have great service. If i could go back in time, i would go gtm but its said and done now. __________________

09-07-2012, 12:24 AM	#36 (permalink)
weiboy718 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 923 Drives: Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 16	Just so some of you guys know those DYNO graphs Sam posted was from my car.

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jezeka777 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: westbury ny Posts: 118 Drives: 2011 370z sport Rep Power: 14	WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS

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