Another possible turbo option?

Fabio88 · 09-02-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

Thanks! I am very happy with it, but I am in that boat where I want more power... lol

however, I am getting a roll cage, and more suspension work done while the car is going to be down.

It will be cool to have more FI options with the z you cant go wrong there.

98intrigue · 09-02-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange

Idk I love my STS kit, my car still puts vettes down even with -2.5 camber on the rear

I was laughing at the fact that he said 700rwhp...not simply because he has an STS kit.

blackonorange · 09-02-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue

I was laughing at the fact that he said 700rwhp...not simply because he has an STS kit.

Ohhhh gotchya

XwChriswX · 09-02-2012, 10:16 PM

Fabio88 · 09-03-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue

I was laughing at the fact that he said 700rwhp...not simply because he has an STS kit.

Im not at 700 rwhp I said I will be soon its a project please read.

CSA0890 · 09-03-2012, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabio88

Im not at 700 rwhp I said I will be soon its a project please read.

He knows that he was making a joke that everyone but you sees. You are going to have to put such a large turbo to get 700hp out of it that it wont spool till 6k+. So it will be a dyno queen at best.

Fabio88 · 09-03-2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CSA0890

He knows that he was making a joke that everyone but you sees. You are going to have to put such a large turbo to get 700hp out of it that it wont spool till 6k+. So it will be a dyno queen at best.

well we will see I hope to get it.

Red__Zed · 09-03-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

right now I am making 508whp, and 404wtq. the goal is to get the torque more inline with the hp.
I don't know if you have seen my dyno sheet, but the curve is very smooth, and the car drives almost like stock before boost. I know Marti wants to keep that same feel, but deliver more torque.... and for me, more power

trying to bring tq up to match power is better done with gearing, rather than swapping out your kit.

All you are doing to bring them closer is moving the powerband down, based on the definition of HP/TQ. You can do (effectively) the same thing by shortening the rear gear.

If you shorten the rear gear to 4.64 (really short), you'd get effectively the same feel as if you'd kept the stock rear gear, and had 508tq. Of course, you wouldn't want to go that short, but you get the point. You've got enough in the way of CR gears that you should be able to get away with something pretty short for track use.

Trying to fix your problem with a turbo kit means you are trying to improve the piping issues, and having to run a more expensive turbo with a broader efficiency curve. While it would be nice to have those things, I can't imagine going from one single to another, especially before you identify your real issues on track.

elperuano · 09-03-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

trying to bring tq up to match power is better done with gearing, rather than swapping out your kit.

All you are doing to bring them closer is moving the powerband down, based on the definition of HP/TQ. You can do (effectively) the same thing by shortening the rear gear.

If you shorten the rear gear to 4.64 (really short), you'd get effectively the same feel as if you'd kept the stock rear gear, and had 508tq. Of course, you wouldn't want to go that short, but you get the point. You've got enough in the way of CR gears that you should be able to get away with something pretty short for track use.

Trying to fix your problem with a turbo kit means you are trying to improve the piping issues, and having to run a more expensive turbo with a broader efficiency curve. While it would be nice to have those things, I can't imagine going from one single to another, especially before you identify your real issues on track.

Well said!

Isamu · 09-04-2012, 04:51 PM

Well said Dan,

I think what I took as increase in torque only was really to increase efficiency, which the increased torque will be a byproduct

Marti · 09-04-2012, 05:23 PM

this thread has doubled since i last looked at it..... yikes. hahaha

This is the compressor we'd be using... .

Isamu · 09-04-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marti

this thread has doubled since i last looked at it..... yikes. hahaha

This is the compressor we'd be using... .

Boosted Performance · 09-04-2012, 09:37 PM

You can use whatever turbo(s) you want, but this engine will not make the torque most people are used to seeing with the VQ35de's. Not to mention that things have not been pushed hard since there are only a few people with built engines.

Nismodean · 09-04-2012, 09:40 PM

For a view that isn't as close up I sneaked in and took this. Might have a fitment issue but once that's resolved I think torque should increase a tad.

Marti · 09-04-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance

You can use whatever turbo(s) you want, but this engine will not make the torque most people are used to seeing with the VQ35de's. Not to mention that things have not been pushed hard since there are only a few people with built engines.

We'll be overhauling Tim's setup with a built motor at some point in the future but with other back to back testing that we've done with similarly spec'd turbochargers, im confident that we will see a noticeable gain in torque and a widening of the power band.

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Originally Posted by Nismodean

For a view that isn't as close up I sneaked in and took this. Might have a fitment issue but once that's resolved I think torque should increase a tad.

I see you snuck a camera into our shop, huh?

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