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Originally Posted by CSA0890 Well I cant say Ive ever missed a shift can you? I put over 100 miles a day on my Z a manual would get old

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Old 08-31-2012, 11:10 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Well I cant say Ive ever missed a shift can you? I put over 100 miles a day on my Z a manual would get old fast as my last car did with a stick.
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I'm sure it is, its just something about auto trans that to me personally is just boring. But to each his own!


If ur automatic, what is the point of saying that? You can't ever miss a shift if you're not even shifting! The hard work is already being done for you.
Manual is not for everyone, but neither is automatic.
You do realize that when in the Manual mode, the 7AT operates just like a manual, sans clutch pedal. So you can sit there and just 'go' and never leave 1st gear the same way as if you were in a 6MT. There is just as much room for error in the 7AT as in the 6MT.

The same thing could be said for SynchroRev Matching on the 6MT, it's doing part of the job for you calculating the proper RPMs when you downshift, so unless you never ever turn it on, it's kind of a situation of arguing 6 to one, half a dozen to another...

True an Auto may not be following suit of the 'traditional old-school' mentality of Manual trans or , but as we've seen, M3, GT-R, Lambo's, Ferarri's, Porche's, are all equipping some variant of an "Auto" trans... And lest we forget, top fuel dragsters.

Hate or not, it is still just as fun in its own way. Sure in a MT you gun it, go, off gas, lurch forward, shift, on gas, snap back, and do this 4 or 5 more times...

But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO. Kind of like riding a jet fighter or a rocket ship. It's hit the 'On' button, and see how far you can push the limit till your balls fail you.
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I must agree with the post above. I just recently got a chance to go for a spin in the twin scroll car that I recently built a kit for.....and it pulls hard. 10 psi at 3600rpm and from there you just hang on all the way to red line. If feels like the car came off the production floor like that (and perhaps it should have).
and couldn't do so more...

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You do realize that when in the Manual mode, the 7AT operates just like a manual, sans clutch pedal. So you can sit there and just 'go' and never leave 1st gear the same way as if you were in a 6MT. There is just as much room for error in the 7AT as in the 6MT.

The same thing could be said for SynchroRev Matching on the 6MT, it's doing part of the job for you calculating the proper RPMs when you downshift, so unless you never ever turn it on, it's kind of a situation of arguing 6 to one, half a dozen to another...

True an Auto may not be following suit of the 'traditional old-school' mentality of Manual trans or , but as we've seen, M3, GT-R, Lambo's, Ferarri's, Porche's, are all equipping some variant of an "Auto" trans... And lest we forget, top fuel dragsters.

Hate or not, it is still just as fun in its own way. Sure in a MT you gun it, go, off gas, lurch forward, shift, on gas, snap back, and do this 4 or 5 more times...

But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO. Kind of like riding a jet fighter or a rocket ship. It's hit the 'On' button, and see how far you can push the limit till your balls fail you.
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You do realize that when in the Manual mode, the 7AT operates just like a manual, sans clutch pedal. So you can sit there and just 'go' and never leave 1st gear the same way as if you were in a 6MT. There is just as much room for error in the 7AT as in the 6MT.

The same thing could be said for SynchroRev Matching on the 6MT, it's doing part of the job for you calculating the proper RPMs when you downshift, so unless you never ever turn it on, it's kind of a situation of arguing 6 to one, half a dozen to another...

True an Auto may not be following suit of the 'traditional old-school' mentality of Manual trans or , but as we've seen, M3, GT-R, Lambo's, Ferarri's, Porche's, are all equipping some variant of an "Auto" trans... And lest we forget, top fuel dragsters.

Hate or not, it is still just as fun in its own way. Sure in a MT you gun it, go, off gas, lurch forward, shift, on gas, snap back, and do this 4 or 5 more times...

But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO. Kind of like riding a jet fighter or a rocket ship. It's hit the 'On' button, and see how far you can push the limit till your balls fail you.
the Z still has a slushbox, unlike those exotics you mention...
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But with the 7AT in either mode, you are On the gas, and you never have to take your foot off... it's just go... go... GO.
One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)

Back on Route 1 at home, I had some MILF in an auto Murano stab the throttle against my Subi from light to light. She killed me because I was pausing between shifts. (Read Chris' quote...) 10-second Subi p0wned by a soccer mom.

Hence, the switchover for me. I LOVE it.

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One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)

Back on Route 1 at home, I had some MILF in an auto Murano stab the throttle against my Subi from light to light. She killed me because I was pausing between shifts. (Read Chris' quote...) 10-second Subi p0wned by a soccer mom.

Hence, the switchover for me. I LOVE it.

BOY_RACER, errr... 370_RACER, you have much to teach, but MORE to learn.

Just sayin'....

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the Z still has a slushbox, unlike those exotics you mention...
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One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)

Back on Route 1 at home, I had some MILF in an auto Murano stab the throttle against my Subi from light to light. She killed me because I was pausing between shifts. (Read Chris' quote...) 10-second Subi p0wned by a soccer mom.

Hence, the switchover for me. I LOVE it.

BOY_RACER, errr... 370_RACER, you have much to teach, but MORE to learn.

Just sayin'....

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Nice. Can't say the same for other AT's, but the 370z AT in the world of AT's I'd say is very potent... compared to other AT's.
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the 7AT is badass! and I drive a manual..
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One of the disappointments when I had my 6-speed Subi STI was how regularly it would miss a shift when going full tilt at the drag strip. I eventually got it to 11.1, and my tuner rode it to an astounding 10.8, but even HE missed a shift the first pass. (Shifting for tens with 500+whp is not as easy as a stock 'slushbox' Z.)


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66yYiCwHYD8
9s or nothing. 8s or bust


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC9Uug4o8E

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I can't even imagine trying to get a traditional manual through the SQM sub 9...crazy stuff
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I can't even imagine trying to get a traditional manual through the SQM sub 9...crazy stuff
Good luck with that...


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Poor s2k.
What is insane is he still ran an 11.45...despite running completely into the other lane and then driving back.



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1) SharpByCoop --GTM TT S2-- 08 G37S coupe 5AT 11.439 @ 125.68 mph 1.816 60ft DR
<-----curb-hopping s2000-- 11.45 @ 55.21
2) *Billy02987 --GTM TT S2-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 11.736 @ 122.59 mph 1.942 60ft street - driven by jnaut
3) Nismo370 -----GTM TT S1-- 09 Nismo ---- 6MT 11.759 @ 127.14 mph 2.157 60ft street
4) Brazilbro ----GTM TT S1-- 09 Base Sport 6MT 11.812 @ 126.51 mph 2.020 60ft street
5) 98intrigue ---custom ST-- 10 40th ----- 6MT 11.852 @ 119.61 mph 1.880 60ft DR
6) Seb@SZ -------GTM TT S2-- 10 Base Sport 6MT 11.961 @ 122.13 mph 1.843 60ft DR
7) *RCZ --------Stillen SC-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 12.207 @ 116.34 mph 2.034 60ft street - driven by jnaut



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What is insane is he still ran an 11.45...despite running completely into the other lane and then driving back.



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1) SharpByCoop --GTM TT S2-- 08 G37S coupe 5AT 11.439 @ 125.68 mph 1.816 60ft DR
<-----curb-hopping s2000-- 11.45 @ 55.21
2) *Billy02987 --GTM TT S2-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 11.736 @ 122.59 mph 1.942 60ft street - driven by jnaut
3) Nismo370 -----GTM TT S1-- 09 Nismo ---- 6MT 11.759 @ 127.14 mph 2.157 60ft street
4) Brazilbro ----GTM TT S1-- 09 Base Sport 6MT 11.812 @ 126.51 mph 2.020 60ft street
5) 98intrigue ---custom ST-- 10 40th ----- 6MT 11.852 @ 119.61 mph 1.880 60ft DR
6) Seb@SZ -------GTM TT S2-- 10 Base Sport 6MT 11.961 @ 122.13 mph 1.843 60ft DR
7) *RCZ --------Stillen SC-- 09 Tour Sport 6MT 12.207 @ 116.34 mph 2.034 60ft street - driven by jnaut





Considering he was running 1.5x the HP of any of those cars listed, I'd say I would expect him to do as good/better.

But yeah, still pretty impressive to beat a stock Z through the wall...
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I dont know about all of this STS makes sick turbo systems and give you room for way more stuff I have sts and soon will be at 700 rwhp.
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